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  • Thuglife Nelo
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    #21
    Originally posted by JLC
    My favorite fighter ever, James Toney, got caught up in PEDs more than once.

    I still think he deserves to go in the Hall, and I make no apologies for it. If I’m wrong, oh well. I can’t contain my bias.
    Hi you doing, Breadman!

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    • Thuglife Nelo
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      #22
      Originally posted by Dip_Slide
      Sometines the penalties for getting caught don't make sense, for example Jarrell Miller should've been indefinitely banned from boxing after he got caught with hardcore steroids that could turn a mofo into the incredible hulk. He only got a slap on the wrist. Canelo was caught using a weight maintaining drug that even housewives use and he got almost the same treatment as Jarrell Miller. It's crazy sometimes.
      Miller and Whyte’s world don’t even have thresholds from WADA! Clenbuterol does! WADA revised it in 2019. Tris Dixon was crying about Canelo with the context of GGG.

      Tris Dixon is steroid user himself. He assumes his gym self tricks should be applied to elite boxers cause he ain’t imagine lacing them up like a boss

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      • komandante
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        #23
        IHB many Mexican fighters were PEDs users including JMM and Canelo.

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        • JLC
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          #24
          Originally posted by Young Bidness
          Hi you doing, Breadman!
          Lol. Didn’t realize he shared the same sentiment. I love James Toney. He is why I watch boxing. And the first time I ever saw him fight he was fat and over the hill. Getting robbed against Samuel Peter. Lol

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          • Dip_Slide
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            #25
            Originally posted by JLC
            Lol. Didn’t realize he shared the same sentiment. I love James Toney. He is why I watch boxing. And the first time I ever saw him fight he was fat and over the hill. Getting robbed against Samuel Peter. Lol
            Interesting that someone was attracted to boxing that way. I always thought that the unpleasant physiques and horrendous conditioning of the heavyweights in the mid to late 2000s is what killed heavyweight boxing for more than a decade. I thought they were unappealing, unskilled and unconditioned. The fact that this ridiculously out of shape Toney had any type of success in that era is a testament to bad things actually were and to how good he once was.

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            • Dip_Slide
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              #26
              Originally posted by baroidi
              There's not enough pressure to clean up boxing. Boxing has lost a lot of popularity, it's at the fringe of mainstream sports right now. That's why their biggest stars can get away with PEDs and corrupt scoring. Hate to say it, but if there were similar number of deaths in MMA and rampant PED abuse, the controversy would explode and might get a Government hearing like Baseball did.
              Rampant PED abuse in MMA has been much worse than in boxing. To some extent the MMA world still tries to make up for the lack of talent in a relatively new and complicated sport by making sure fighters look impressive and have good stamina so that they can sell just like in pro wrestling. Just judging by the eye test you can clearly see the difference between the fighters of both sports.

              Regarding punishment for PED use i think they're not much better than boxing, Jon Jones was caught with hardcore steroids in his system and he got what i thought was a slap on the wrist. The athletic commissions have to make sure that punishments for steroid use are a lot harsher and that testing is more stringent. Both sports are far from optimal regarding this issue.

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              • Marchegiano
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                #27
                Why are PEDs unfair but better facilities and trainers are not?

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                • The D3vil
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                  #28
                  Yeah, boxing's one step up from WWE at this point.

                  I hate to say it, but it's barely a sport.

                  Just look at the judging and all the alphabet belts.

                  It's like boxing has so many problems that people just stopped giving a damn

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                  • Beercules
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Young Bidness
                    Don’t be mad cause Canelo beat Cintron and the Cotto Bros. Canelo runs Boricua hoodness
                    Yeah that's what I am mad about



                    You're weird dude.

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                    • Beercules
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by The D3vil
                      Yeah, boxing's one step up from WWE at this point.

                      I hate to say it, but it's barely a sport.

                      Just look at the judging and all the alphabet belts.

                      It's like boxing has so many problems that people just stopped giving a damn
                      It's cliche sport.

                      I know we are all fans but other people don't give a ****. Sad.

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