Comments Thread For: What's Happening With DAZN? - Part Two

[Scipio2009]

how much did the investors get back from the 600 mil they were duped out of?

Waddell and Reed is a mutual fund, with some like $60b in AUM that they have to figure what to do with.

Risk is risk, but PBC made it through; to the tune of $100m+ in domestic TV revenue, how much for the international feed of their product, the piece to PBC from PPV, and a likely chunk of Haymon's managerial fee going forward.

Scared money don't make money, and it looks like W&R may have hit on an investment that'll be beneficial long-term.

[killakali]

Waddell and Reed is a mutual fund, with some like $60b in AUM that they have to figure what to do with.

Risk is risk, but PBC made it through; to the tune of $100m+ in domestic TV revenue, how much for the international feed of their product, the piece to PBC from PPV, and a likely chunk of Haymon's managerial fee going forward.

Scared money don't make money, and it looks like W&R may have hit on an investment that'll be beneficial long-term.

No it doesn’t look like Waddell has hit long term Lmaoooo go back to accounting school.

After losing money on wilder-Ortiz, pac-Broner, pac-thurman, Spence-Porter the ppv isn’t making money. Plus the major loss on Wilder-Breazeale and some other over pay losses PBC will be lucky to have broke even last year.

If wilder fury 2 and 3 can strike gold this year maybe they turn a profit this year.

Pbc, Top Rank, golden boy all lost money last year.

[killakali]

No one was "duped" out of anything.

The investment from Waddell and Reed was what it was, the money was spent on 3 years of various TV deals, the revenue from the commercials that did get sold (plus Haymon's fee allegedly) was rolled back to W&R, and now W&R are seeing a piece of the basically half a billion dollar TV rights deals for the next 4 years, with Phase 3 likely seeing the package go up even higher.

PBC is still around, W&R still own a massive chunk of it, and the investors will likely see at least $75m of that $500m off the TV deal, a piece of whatever PPVs get done over the next 4 years, and Haymon's fee for however long he agreed to use it as a marker for the deal.

Put up $600m (or whatever the amount was to start), spend it down on the initial TV outlay, make some of it back in commercials on that start, get at least $100m as their piece of the first 4-year deal, watch that number go up even more on the next deal, with FOX/Showtime keeping boxing for the foreseeable future.

2015, the investment was made; by 2019, the investment was bringing in money from steady income streams that don't look set to disappear any time soon.

No idea what the books are, but wouldn't shock me if W&R ends up with dividends enough to cover the outlay by 2025 (or sooner), with the investment in the black from then on in.

1% of the fund, with the money dividended back in 10 years, and a growing positive stream from then on in?

Not a bad deal

not one fact in here. All of your projections based on your hopes and dreams.

The only part that is factually correct in your tangent is this part “ No idea what the books are“

[Redd Foxx]

This forum is funny. People spend hours, even DAYS out of their lives arguing the same shyt to death. If you just wait long enough though, the truth always starts to surface. The fools that tried to tell you the sky was red move on to other subjects that they can spend endless hours on before getting embarrassed again.

What do the dazn cheerleaders do now? Well, it looks like they're trying to divert attention to pbc and espn... Predictable.

[Scipio2009]

No it doesn’t look like Waddell has hit long term Lmaoooo go back to accounting school.

After losing money on wilder-Ortiz, pac-Broner, pac-thurman, Spence-Porter the ppv isn’t making money. Plus the major loss on Wilder-Breazeale and some other over pay losses PBC will be lucky to have broke even last year.

If wilder fury 2 and 3 can strike gold this year maybe they turn a profit this year.

Pbc, Top Rank, golden boy all lost money last year.

The fact that you honestly seem to think that PBC lost money on every PPV that they put on last year (when Fox Sports and Showtime have yet to slow up on the tentative plan to stage 5-6 PPVs in 2020), let's me know all I need to know

[killakali]

The fact that you honestly seem to think that PBC lost money on every PPV that they put on last year (when Fox Sports and Showtime have yet to slow up on the tentative plan to stage 5-6 PPVs in 2020), let's me know all I need to know

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No one said Showtime or Fox lost money you twit. PBC lost money. Pbc guaranteed the entire purses and not the networks. Why do you think Showtime walked away from the Wilder Ortiz train wreck ppv?

[2ndroundko]

No it doesn’t look like Waddell has hit long term Lmaoooo go back to accounting school.

After losing money on wilder-Ortiz, pac-Broner, pac-thurman, Spence-Porter the ppv isn’t making money. Plus the major loss on Wilder-Breazeale and some other over pay losses PBC will be lucky to have broke even last year.

If wilder fury 2 and 3 can strike gold this year maybe they turn a profit this year.

Pbc, Top Rank, golden boy all lost money last year.

im reading your posts and starting to think you don’t have much of a higher education.

[killakali]

im reading your posts and starting to think you don’t have much of a higher education.

Just a bachelors. The problem is a guy like Sciputo2009 is a wannabe account who just makes up numbers based on what he wants them to be

[N/A]

Pbc guaranteed the entire purses and not the networks.

You're an idiot. An absolute complete idiot.

https://www.boxingscene.com/showtimes-espinoza-wilder-ortiz-ppv-deal-didnt-make-sense-us--142822

“We had the opportunity to distribute the pay-per-view, but the deal didn’t make sense for us,” Espinoza told BoxingScene.com on Tuesday. “Obviously, we love Deontay Wilder and we believe Wilder-Ortiz will be an exciting fight. But we’re not gonna take disproportionate risks in order to secure it."

The networks guarantee the purses when PBC runs a PPV. You ****ing idiot.

[2ndroundko]

Just a bachelors. The problem is a guy like Sciputo2009 is a wannabe account who just makes up numbers based on what he wants them to be

in ******* arts maybe