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  • Mindgames
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    #21
    Originally posted by LetOutTheCage
    Haye was never knocked out by Carl Thompson. It was a stoppage. Thompson was a very underrated and durable fighter and young Haye was beating the hell out of him before he gassed out.

    He fought a Prime Chisora who was never hurt or wobbled up until that point and stopped him.

    He also fought a guy who is 7 ft tall and made him do the chicken dance. Haye might have had the best career but your playing down his accomplishments a great deal. In a great deal of his fights at heavyweight he was giving up a significant size and reach advantage to his opponents
    Haye set the bar very high proclaiming himself the saviour of the division and Klitschko a scared bum. When Haye lost to a shopworn 40 year old Thompson, hes excuse was he didnt train. Yeah he beat Valuev, but it was one of the worst, low output title fights i ever saw. Valuev had lost to Chagaev, and by consensus opinion, a totally shot Holyfield. Ruiz was shot, and was rabbit punched to oblivion. Barrett was never top class. Audley had been crushed by Sprott, chinny and never reached world class. So we have the fight with Wlad, where he said he was 100% but then claimed injury when he lost. He fought two absolute unknowns before Bellew, which was also excused. The best win was actually Chisora, whos never beaten a world class fighter, but was tough, although well beaten by one armed Vitali and novice Fury. Haye was a king of marketing, talking the part, and conning the paying public.

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    • dan_cov
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      #22
      Why is Haye being credited for beating journeyman? I've never seen a HW get so much praise for beating such a poor level of opposition as David Haye.

      If Haye had half the boxing ability as he did to sell a fight he'd be still unified HW champion to this day.

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      • Tatabanya
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        #23
        Originally posted by mindgames
        haye set the bar very high proclaiming himself the saviour of the division and klitschko a scared bum. When haye lost to a shopworn 40 year old thompson, hes excuse was he didnt train. Yeah he beat valuev, but it was one of the worst, low output title fights i ever saw. Valuev had lost to chagaev, and by consensus opinion, a totally shot holyfield. Ruiz was shot, and was rabbit punched to oblivion. Barrett was never top class. Audley had been crushed by sprott, chinny and never reached world class. So we have the fight with wlad, where he said he was 100% but then claimed injury when he lost. He fought two absolute unknowns before bellew, which was also excused. The best win was actually chisora, whos never beaten a world class fighter, but was tough, although well beaten by one armed vitali and novice fury. Haye was a king of marketing, talking the part, and conning the paying public.
        Aaa-mennnnnn !!!!

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        • Tatabanya
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          #24
          Originally posted by dan_cov
          Why is Haye being credited for beating journeyman? I've never seen a HW get so much praise for beating such a poor level of opposition as David Haye.

          If Haye had half the boxing ability as he did to sell a fight he'd be still unified HW champion to this day.
          The great James Toney perfectly summarized that era of heavyweights when he referred to these guys as "David Gay and the Bìtchko Sisters"

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          • Enzo Mc is SHIT
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            #25
            Originally posted by Articulateboxin
            In fairness, the bellew loss was the best thing that ever happened for Haye's career After his humility in defeat, the public's opinion softened on him somewhat and that seemingly opened up punditry work and helped keep him relevant.
            Good post. He was obviously badly injured in the first fight and it looked like he probably got another one in the second but kept his mouth shut and accepted defeat.

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            • tokon
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              #26
              Originally posted by Ray*
              He knew before he even got in the ring for the rematch, much like Nigel Benn and his comeback, it was all for a last pay cheque. Just because you have a six pack doesn’t mean you are in fighting shape, doesn’t mean your body is ready for war.
              Yeah, he knew before he ever fought bellew the first time his career was over. Excellent cruiser but massively overated as a heavyweight imo.

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              • paulf
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                #27
                Haye was an ATG cruiserweight; he treated his run at heavy as an a cash/opportunity grab to a degree of which we've rarely seen. In an insanely thin heavyweight era, he still veered away from the name guys; Adamek, Peter, Dimitrenko, Arreola, Ustinov, Povetkin... fought none of em. Had he not got the Wlad fight, he was planning on fighting Antonio Tarver next.

                Makes me think of that Hemingway line, actually. "He had had his life and it was over and then he went on living it again with different people and more money, with the best of the same places."

                Despite that, he was arguably the best opponent prime Wlad ever faced.

                The fights with Bellew honestly resulted in me finding a lot more respect for both guys.

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                • Roberto Vasquez
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                  #28
                  Haye should have known before if had done proper sparring. It might be that he just felt off on the day.

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                  • GlassJoey
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Mindgames
                    "The early rounds that i was winning?". He never got a good shot off in the whole fight. He thought Bellew was easy money, and like all these people who say they came in injured not 100%, you are basically admitting you were conning the public. So thanks Dave, from the heart of my bottom.. 🖕
                    He definitely won the round that Bellew did nothing in (think just round 1). To be fair I think he knew he was in trouble before the first fight. He wanted to fight a few bums to earn a title shot swan-song but Bellew called him out and Hearn offered him too much money to say no

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                    • alexguiness
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                      #30
                      Haye was a decent CW but in honestly a terrible HW.

                      His best win was who, Chisora?

                      His resume is full of bums and he got his ears boxed off by Carl Thompson.

                      Always full of excuses when he lost as well.

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