Do you really think anthony joshua would have beaten luis ortiz?

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  • champion4ever
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    #21
    Originally posted by Thraxox
    OP thinking Luis Ortiz is as dangerous as Wladimir Klitschko or Joseph Parker. You want to think Luis is some sort of boogeyman that only Wilder could beat so that you can gloat over that win.
    Dude, I mean no disrespect but Klitschko was an old washed up 41 year old man at the time when he fought Anthony Joshua; Who was well beyond is best fighting years.

    As far as Joseph Parker is concerned; He ain't shit! The man can't even hit. All he does is fight off the back foot like he did against Andy "The Big Fat Ass" Ruiz.

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      #22
      Originally posted by DaNeutral.
      Unlike fresh faced up and comer Luis Ortiz?

      You gotta love and laugh at these Wilder fans and their spin. Wlad Klitchko who dominated the diviision is just an old man and Joshua deserves little respect for it but same aged Luis Ortiz who has never done anything in the division is a great win for Wilder.
      We also known damn well if someone does beat Ortiz they will say he wasn't the same version that wilder fought

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        #23
        Originally posted by QueensburyRules
        - -U preschool allow U on the internet?

        Ortiz was offered AJ after BigBaby got popped and nixed it for the easier Deyonce and his single belt.

        When U make kindergarten?
        You missed the entire point. The T.S. Is referring to the pre-Deontay Wilder Luis Ortiz. The one before he got exposed the first time. The one that was built like a tank and strong as a bull.

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          #24
          Originally posted by DaNeutral.
          Unlike fresh faced up and comer Luis Ortiz?

          You gotta love and laugh at these Wilder fans and their spin. Wlad Klitchko who dominated the diviision is just an old man and Joshua deserves little respect for it but same aged Luis Ortiz who has never done anything in the division is a great win for Wilder.
          By the time Joshua fought Wlad; He was clearly showing signs of wear and tear and deterioration. He had been stopped three times previously to that fight and had a total of 4 losses on his record.

          In addition, he had struggled in both of his two previous bouts against Bryant Jennings and Tyson Fury before Anthony Joshua as well. While the older Luis Ortiz was fresher, stronger avoided, undefeated and had no knockout losses on his record.

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          • nixxter
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            #25
            Joshua destroys this old man inside three rounds. Too much of everything.

            Ortiz's best wins are Jennings, 45 year old Tony Thompson and scuba Scott... He's fought only bums since Jennings, and got dropped by the last one (Hammer). That's no boogeyman.

            He had the chance to fight Joshua twice for 3 belts and more money than he's made in his entire career and he chose to fight Wilder instead both times. Ask yourself why.

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              #26
              Joshua would've out jabbed Ortiz to victory all night

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                #27
                He would have never defeated the undefeated version of Luis Ortiz. Yes, probably now but not the undefeated version that got exposed by Deontay Wilder after nearly stopping him in the seventh round of their first bout. Hell no! That Luis Ortiz would have knocked Anthony Joshua out.

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                • jqSide
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                  #28
                  The outcome doesn't matter now. Ortiz rejected a lucrative offer. That is that. End of story.

                  The chance to win multiple titles no longer have any value these days in boxing. As if winning them will not raise their stock up, thus more money will follow. Fighters behave as if it's their last fight and therefore want to be compensated unreasonably. Look at Ruiz, he ended up gaining titles and earn more money than he could ever imagine.

                  I don't even know why some fans encourage this horrible thing. Ortiz rejected the offer and fans applauded him for it.

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                    #29
                    Win every scored round in his boxing career except for one?

                    Originally posted by Madison boxing
                    Whats Ortiz ever done apart from being cuban and getting kod twice by wilder?

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                    • redmish
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                      #30
                      These threads are boring. Nobody knows how good Ortiz is. He hasn't beaten anybody. His claim to fame is rocking Wilder on the way to two KO defeats. When he beats a quality HW I'll be the first person on here giving him credit but I won't be holding my breath.

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