Comments Thread For: Joshua: Deontay Wilder Unification Should Happen in UK

[OldTerry]

Where in my post did i say Joshua beats Wilder? Im a big Joshua fan, if they ever fought my money would go on Wilder. Its not as easy as "1st shot Wilder lands its over" it never is. I give Joshua a good chance of winning that fight too but i favour Wilder. Thats just my opinion and as an AJ fan i dont mind saying it. But Joshua wants that fight.

But for one reason or another Wilder is clearly avoiding the Joshua fight. I dont even care why, i dont think hes scared to face the Brit but what ever the problem is its a problem on Wilders side of things.

I agree with you on this one about 90%. Wilder (in my opinion) is holding back on fighting Joshua mostly out of bitterness on past negotiations. If that is the root issue for Wilder he's stalling out of spite.

[OldTerry]

I am sorry but I don't believe that Wilder practices or studies the Eastern philosophies or disciplines. You got him fucked up with Keith Thurman. He is deeply rooted into that shit not Deontay Wilder. "The Bronze Bomber" is the son of a Baptist preacher. Therefore, he studies and practices Christianity

I'm a Wilder fan and while he may be the son of a Baptist preacher he doesn't study or practice Christianity. If he did he wouldn't make his living through practicing violence. Let's not fool ourselves.

[Kezzer]

What time did it air over there? I missed the fight because I was out with the wife running errands. Since it was on DAZN I was able to stream it after the fact but yeah...I'm sure that's the argument he's trying to make.


and as convenient as streaming after the fact is...we all know boxing matches just aren't the same once they've been spoiled.

It was aired prime uk time so wasn’t effected there. I would say that the promotion in the uk was pretty poor though so I was surprised it did so well

[Kezzer]

Here is a list of just some of the PPVs he out performed in his very first PPV outing:

July 23, 2016 Terence Crawford vs. Viktor Postol
Aug 12, 2006 Hasim Rahman vs. Oleg Maskaev II
Apr 15, 1985 Marvin Hagler vs. Thomas Hearns
Feb 22, 2003 Mike Tyson vs. Clifford Etienne
Dec 11, 2004 Vitali Klitschko vs. Danny Williams
May 6, 2006 Manny Pacquiao vs. Óscar Larios
Sep 9, 2000 Roy Jones Jr. vs. Eric Harding
Jun 17, 2017 Andre Ward vs. Sergey Kovalev II
Apr 6, 1987 Sugar Ray Leonard vs. Marvin Hagler
Oct 4, 2003 James Toney vs. Evander Holyfield
Apr 14, 2007 Manny Pacquiao vs Jorge Solís
Apr 3, 2010 Bernard Hopkins vs. Roy Jones Jr. II
Oct 17, 2015 Gennady Golovkin vs. David Lemieux
Apr 20, 2019 Terence Crawford vs. Amir Khan Crawford
Jun 20, 1980 Roberto Durán vs. Sugar Ray Leonard
Nov 19, 2016 Sergey Kovalev vs. Andre Ward
Mar 18, 2017 Gennady Golovkin vs. Daniel Jacobs
Mar 3, 2001 Evander Holyfield vs. John Ruiz II
Oct 18, 1991 Ray Mercer vs. Tommy Morrison Mercer
Jun 28, 2008 David Díaz vs. Manny Pacquiao
Nov 8, 2008 Joe Calzaghe vs. Roy Jones Jr.
Jun 11, 2005 Mike Tyson vs. Kevin McBride
Nov 18, 1994 James Toney vs. Roy Jones Jr.
Oct 4, 1997 Lennox Lewis vs. Andrew Golota
Jul 12, 2014 Canelo Álvarez vs. Erislandy Lara
Sep 17, 2016 Canelo Álvarez vs. Liam Smith
Nov 5, 2016 Manny Pacquiao vs. Jessie Vargas
Nov 8, 2003 Antonio Tarver vs. Roy Jones Jr.
Apr 7, 2001 Naseem Hamed vs. Marco Antonio Barrera
Jun 7, 2014 Miguel Cotto vs. Sergio Martínez Cotto




Thank you for your uneducated, inexperienced, amateur opinion.

This is the healthiest the US PPV market has been in many years. Fox has completely reinvigorated PPV in this market. Using all of its affiliates to push the PPVs hard, as well as FS1 and FS2.

Fox's PPV debut, Spence vs. Garcia, was a massive success. 375,000 buys for two guys who had never headlined a PPV before. 500,000 buys for Pacquiao vs. Thurman, one of whom had never headlined a PPV before. 350,000 buys for Spence vs. Porter, one of whom had never headlined a PPV before. 275,000 buys Wilder vs. Ortiz II, one of whom had never headlined a PPV before.

And here is a list of Joshua fights which surpasses Wilders biggest ppv buys to date.

Dillian Whyte
Charles Martin
Dominic Breazeale
Eric Molina
Wladimir Klitschko
Carlos Takam
Joseph Parker
Alexander Povetkin
Andy Ruiz 1
Andy Ruiz 2

I know that’s marginally close because Joshua only had more buys in ten more fights... but it’s just about enough to make him A side.

[rolshans]

Even with Joshua having one loss, if it's an undisputed fight, it likely does around 1.5 million buys at $85.

Lmao why not

[SchoolTheseCats]

How do we know this? Wilder just faced Ortiz and couldnt sell more than 7 thousand tickets. Wilder fans tell me Ortiz was seen as the 2nd best Heavy by Americans and was better known than Joshua by Americans. But it did 7k.

We keep getting told about the size of this fight in America but then we keep getting told nobody cares about AJ and then we see Wilders fights bomb. The American market is huge but it doesnt seem to be turning out for Wilder. You Wilder fans need to stop flip flopping or using double standards cuz the math dont add up.

Just look at live gate from wilder/fury in California and compare that to aj live gates in his stadium fights, 16k ppl in Cali did comparable numbers to aj stadium fights and that’s not the Mecca of boxing where big fights happen so imagine what a unification in Vegas with the brits traveling to pack 20k people in t-mobile arena.... aj just scared to coming back to stateside or he wouldn’t be already mentioning the location of the fight

[champion4ever]

I'm a Wilder fan and while he may be the son of a Baptist preacher he doesn't study or practice Christianity. If he did he wouldn't make his living through practicing violence. Let's not fool ourselves.

Then what about Manny Pacquiao; Who makes his living through practicing violence too? Does he study and practice Christianity also.

[champion4ever]

I say fuck it! Bring on Anthony Joshua. That fight would break box office and pay per view records for the Heavyweight division. However, the U.K. Is too small to host such an event. The fight should convene in the U.S. in Las Vegas; For a combined purse of at least $200 Mil with a 50 percent purse split. Which means both fighters gets a guarantee of at least $100 Mil with an upswing and percentage of the pay per View and the live gate off the back end. The fight should do about 4 million pay per views. The longer the fight marinates the bigger it's going to get just like Money vs Pac.

[DClefthook]

And here is a list of Joshua fights which surpasses Wilders biggest ppv buys to date.

Dillian Whyte
Charles Martin
Dominic Breazeale
Eric Molina
Wladimir Klitschko
Carlos Takam
Joseph Parker
Alexander Povetkin
Andy Ruiz 1
Andy Ruiz 2

I know that’s marginally close because Joshua only had more buys in ten more fights... but it’s just about enough to make him A side.

Well you just made my point. Since Aj is a PPV star in the UK and Wilder does decent PPV in the colonies, why in the hellllllll would they host this fight on an APP. Thanks for agreeing mate!

[Kezzer]

Well you just made my point. Since Aj is a PPV star in the UK and Wilder does decent PPV in the colonies, why in the hellllllll would they host this fight on an APP. Thanks for agreeing mate!

I never suggested otherwise ? The uk will be ppv regardless. If dazn offer more money then by all means go on an app ? They are offering more to most fighters so it’s not beyond imagination for sure, particularly since wilders numbers on ppv aren’t that impressive for a heavyweight “star”