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  • SteveM
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    #41
    Originally posted by _Rexy_
    Oh yeah, because China isn't known for things like jailing people for no reason and censoring the world.

    I mean, there's been two Canadian citizens that have been detained in China for over a year now for no reason.

    It's a lot easier to speak out against that sort of thing when theres free speech. It's another thing to be sent to a communist prison for speaking out against ethnic cleansing.
    I don't think the Chinese would send Beterbiev to jail. They'd just forbid him entering the country. Then the fight would have to be rescheduled to another country and he wouldn't be stripped.

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    • _Rexy_
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      #42
      Originally posted by SteveM
      I don't think the Chinese would send Beterbiev to jail. They'd just forbid him entering the country. Then the fight would have to be rescheduled to another country and he wouldn't be stripped.
      They'd probably send him off to reeducation camp.

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        #43
        Originally posted by _Rexy_
        Oh yeah, because China isn't known for things like jailing people for no reason and censoring the world.

        I mean, there's been two Canadian citizens that have been detained in China for over a year now for no reason.

        It's a lot easier to speak out against that sort of thing when theres free speech. It's another thing to be sent to a communist prison for speaking out against ethnic cleansing.
        Rexy, dear... don't mix sports with politics... it's a too tricky issue...

        ... the "ethnic problems" in Xinjiang emerged since before our "current Era" -- i.e. since Han dynasty took hold of the Tarim region...

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          #44
          Originally posted by MDPopescu
          Rexy, dear... don't mix sports with politics... it's a too tricky issue...

          ... the "ethnic problems" in Xinjiang emerged since before our "current Era" -- i.e. since Han dynasty took hold of the Tarim region...
          I never said it was new, just that Beterbiev objects. And that if he waited until he was in the ring, standing over Meng's lifeless body and speaks out against it, he would likely be censored and detained.

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            #45
            Originally posted by _Rexy_
            I never said it was new, just that Beterbiev objects. And that if he waited until he was in the ring, standing over Meng's lifeless body and speaks out against it, he would likely be censored and detained.
            ... The Chinese commies have no political business with foreign citizens, such as Beterbiev... those who bought the fight don't give a shit about such issues...

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              #46
              Originally posted by MDPopescu
              ... The Chinese commies have no political business with foreign citizens, such as Beterbiev... those who bought the fight don't give a shit about such issues...
              This... precisely.

              They are about the business.... otherwise, the millions of Americans and Canadians going to China would be arrested daily... they are not, just isolated instances where we only get a part of the story.

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                #47
                Originally posted by MaksBox
                This... precisely.

                They are about the business.... otherwise, the millions of Americans and Canadians going to China would be arrested daily...
                they are not, just isolated instances where we only get a part of the story.
                ... you're doing a "reductio ad absurdum" here... but it's OK... some people need this -- even if they don't really (want to) understand...

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                • Marvlus Marv
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by boliodogs
                  No way in hell does Canelo ever fight Bivol or Beterbiev even in Vegas. I bet he fights either Callum Smith or Saunders in Vegas..
                  I know you'll be right. Gotta pick those low hanging plums.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by SCEN3RY
                    haha wouldn't it be nice to see their tax papers? How much are these folks actually paying back? And I wonder if it's coincidentally a lot less since getting in good with the Bama's...

                    Anyways, I thought ROC was done with boxing, so this is a surprise. I don't think TR is losing sleep since this wasn't going to draw big numbers in the states anyway and Beterbiev gets a better chunk of cash.

                    edit: reading that last paragraph, it'll be interesting to see how this plays out. I wouldn't blame Beterbiev for not fighting there - hopefully the IBF develops some rational thought and doesn't strip him for it.
                    Beterbiev is getting old... His career staled for a long time. SO... if he can make a million dollars crushing this guy, and then move on to better things, he should take it.

                    And yes: would love the IRS to focus on other big names too, not just Trump.

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                    • El_Cholo
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                      #50
                      Beterbiev refusing to fight in China

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