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  • #51
    Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
    It is hard punching, you are thinking of effective aggression.


    Seriously, this in meant to be a boxing forum and most of you don't even know how to score a fight.
    seriously man, there is nowhere in the rules that say "HARD PUNCHING"

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    • #52
      The only guy with a legit argument was Castillo in the first fight, and that's only because the judges missed a knockdown (ruled a slip) that swung what would've been a 10-8 Mayweather round to a 10-9 Castillo round. So Floyd fought him again and won clearly.

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      • #53
        four defined scoring criteria that judges are supposed to go by:

        Clean, effective punching
        Effective aggression
        Defense
        Ring generalship

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        • #54
          Originally posted by famicommander View Post
          The only guy with a legit argument was Castillo in the first fight, and that's only because the judges missed a knockdown (ruled a slip) that swung what would've been a 10-8 Mayweather round to a 10-9 Castillo round. So Floyd fought him again and won clearly.
          Castillo did slip, a punch did not land

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          • #55
            Originally posted by historian larry View Post
            seriously man, there is nowhere in the rules that say "HARD PUNCHING"

            It is clean punching, but the hard punches count for a lot more, touch jabs count for very little.

            In the amateurs all blow are the same, in the pro ranks it is the power of the shot that counts for much more.

            It is subjective though on how much you will favor power over quantity.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by historian larry View Post
                four defined scoring criteria that judges are supposed to go by:

                Clean, effective punching
                Effective aggression
                Defense
                Ring generalship

                And they use effective, as in, what type of effect it has on the opponent.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
                  If you follow the criteria for scoring rounds of pro boxing, then Pacquiao beat Floyd easily.

                  Only clean hard punches can be scored.
                  Floyd hardly landed any during the whole fight.

                  Effective Aggression

                  Which was Pacquiao.

                  And Ring generalship, running to the ropes is not being the ring general.

                  Defense, all Floyd did was grab hold and run, not boxing defensive moves.


                  Touch jabs mean nothing in the pro game.
                  That's the problem thou, these judges really don't understand these rules nowadays. If they did, runners wouldn't win a lot of fights at all.

                  Then again most people can't tell the difference between a boxer and a runner nowadays.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
                    It is clean punching, but the hard punches count for a lot more, touch jabs count for very little.

                    In the amateurs all blow are the same, in the pro ranks it is the power of the shot that counts for much more.

                    It is subjective though on how much you will favor power over quantity.
                    ok so you were not one of those who had GGG winning against Canelo then right?? because he landed more "POWER" shots in both fights..just trying to where you are going with this

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by historian larry View Post
                      ok so you were not one of those who had GGG winning against Canelo then right?? because he landed more "POWER" shots in both fights..just trying to where you are going with this

                      GGG won the first fight.

                      Harder punches, more damaging punches count for more.

                      Touch jabs count very little.

                      Pro boxing is about the hurt game, it is not the amateurs.

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