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  • Robbie Barrett
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    #41
    Originally posted by D4thincarnation
    Never heard of the site and it doesn't say ONLY hard punches are scored.

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      #42
      Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
      Never heard of the site and it doesn't say ONLY hard punches are scored.
      Probably a lot of things you have not heard of.




      a) Effective Aggression

      The key to the first category is the word "effective." One may be going forward, trying to get at ones opponent, forcing them back, but not throwing punches, or missing badly. In order to be "effective" one must have success landing consistently while moving forward. It should be noted that the opponent, who is "out-boxing" or keeping the fight at a distance, can be the "effective aggressor" by initiating the punching exchanges.

      b) Defense

      A badly over-looked aspect of boxing, especially in scoring a fight. Defense is a part of combat. In boxing it is the ability to hit the opponent without being hit in return. Defense may include ducking, dodging, bobbing and weaving, parrying, blocking, slipping, and sidestepping, as well as effectively utilizing the clinch.

      c) Ring Generalship

      The person who dictates the tempo of the fight and controls the action in the ring is the ring general. The boxer who makes the other man fight his fight. If fighter A keeps the fight in ring center, and nullifies the "aggression" of fighter B he is the better ring general." Or if fighter B effectively cuts off the ring and forces fighter A to the ropes where he can go to work he then is the better ring general.

      d) Clean and Hard Punching

      This should be obvious, but it's not. Since many fans and sportswriters ignore the two previous categories they often fail to understand what is actually taking place in the ring. A "clean" blow is one that lands flush without being blocked by his opponent. But how many times has one heard an announcer "Oh what a left hook by so and so!" The problem is the punch landed on his opponent's glove and only made a loud noise and didn't score at all. Some blows are "partially blocked"; meaning it did not land with its full force. Such blows are not "clean" punches. Also it is not the amount of punches that are thrown the matters, but the amount of blows that land. Hard punching is important as the amount of damage a blow causes counts in the scoring. In the amateurs a knockdown is only as good as a jab, but in the pro's its worth much more. One hard right that staggers the opponent though is not worth ten hard jabs that snap back the opponent's head. Damaging blows and their value are difficult to assess and that is why boxing is subjective. However it should be noted that landing 3 or 4 punches that hurt an opponent in the last seconds of a round are not enough to make up for losing the first two and a half minutes of the round where he was out-boxed. After all the name of the game is boxing not slugging!



      Maybe this is why so many of you score fights wrong.
      You just don't know what you are looking for.

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      • Larry the boss
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        #43
        Originally posted by D4thincarnation
        It says clean hard punching.

        Sorry no touch jabs or grazing blows.


        Do you guys know anything?
        "Clean, EFFECTIVE punches" Not HARD man

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          #44
          Originally posted by D4thincarnation
          Probably a lot of things you have not heard of.






          Maybe this is why so many of you score fights wrong.
          You just don't know what you are looking for.
          Yet again never heard of the guy and it doesn't say only hard punches are scored.




          You claimed the official rules said it. Post these official rules you talked about.

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            #45
            Originally posted by -Kev-
            Maidana in the first fight did better than most vs Floyd. I predicted that though. You can see it coming. I knew Maidana would be stylistically and physically tougher than Pacquiao.
            That was the only fight were at the end I saw a chance he could lose. The rest I knew without a doubt he won

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              #46
              Originally posted by historian larry
              "Clean, EFFECTIVE punches" Not HARD man

              It is hard punching, you are thinking of effective aggression.


              Seriously, this in meant to be a boxing forum and most of you don't even know how to score a fight.

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                #47
                Originally posted by BoomBapTrap
                No, Floyd ducked Prime Pac.
                There’s a video where he admits he was scared of PAC around that time.

                Everybody knows Floyd ducked prime PAC.
                How can you duck someone who rejected you?

                Pacquiao asked for:
                50-50 split and $10mill penalty per every pound above 147 at the weigh in.

                Mayweather agreed.

                Top billing was agreed upon, who would enter first was agreed upon.

                The fight was almost done for 2010.

                Then Pacquiao rejected the fight due to Floyd’s request of Olympic Style Drug Testing.

                That’s not Floyd’s fault that he agreed to all of Pacquiao’s demands and Pacquiao could not do the same.

                So if anyone ducked it was Pacquiao ducking Floyd.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by historian larry
                  That was the only fight were at the end I saw a chance he could lose. The rest I knew without a doubt he won
                  Yep, same atmosphere in the home where I watched it. Everyone was biting their nails. It was a genuinely close fight.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by D4thincarnation
                    Nope, they are the official guidelines you noob.

                    You just showed yourself up
                    Post these official guidelines you're talking about. I want to see where it says only hard punches are scored.

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                      #50
                      Conor mcgregor did a better job then Manny 🤣

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