Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Comments Thread For: Mayweather: Davis is Taking Chances, Rolling The Dice Like I Did

Collapse
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • #71
    Originally posted by Curt Henning View Post
    pauls style would have been tough...it might have taken 6 rounds or so for floyd to figure him out...but he would have...paul was also pretty basic in what he did....you must have forgotten that paul was outboxed by a guy named carlos quintana....lol...quintana was at best a B level fighter

    bro...cotto was eating margarito for a good 6 rounds...easily....and then the 2nd fight he dominated him...cotto didnt adjust and do what he should have done....he did what he should have done in the 2nd fight.....floyd would have battered margarito and clinched and tied him up when neccesary......margarito would have been very easy for floyd....margarito was trash....absolute trash....you keep talking about his "style" but he didnt have one...or any....he was as basic...he just had a block head

    you can call me a ****rider...whatever...i could call you a "hater"...but i wont....i just see things for what they are.....you people are still talking about floyd...theres 20 floyd threads a day and he aint had a real fight in years...

    try looking for the truth in what you watch...not the narrative you want to be true
    Carlos was also a southpaw lol. Very different styles, as Carlos committed to, and welcomed exchanges, and combination punching. And what happened to Carlos in the rematch? Yeah, got stopped.

    And as for the Margarito/Cotto fight. Cotto fought him off of him against the ropes like a dog, and used tremendous combination punching, and hard shots to earn margs respect, and that still didn't help him, since he got stopped later on in the fight.

    Which goes to my point that Floyd doesn't use combination punching, and doesn't have nearly the power that prime Cotto had. Which wouldn't earn margs respect, thus Margarito pinning him against the ropes all night, and teeing off on Floyd's body. Margarito's style was all wrong for Floyd, and even he knew it.

    Shane was able to land combination power punches against Margarito, again, something that Floyd doesn't do.

    Yeah, you're a **** rider.

    Comment


    • #72
      I know everyone will probably jump all over what floyd said about taking chances and rolling the dice. When you really take a close look at Floyd’s career, his entire career was all rolling the dice and taking chances because whatever strategic plan they had to make him a PPV Star could have back fired at any time. Most of us that have ever owned a business can make a wrong decision at any time to disrupt the growth or life of it. But Floyd and his team picked the right fights, at the perfect times to their advantage, to build up their PPV power and revenue and eventually earned more in the ring than any fighter of his era. Just another vantage point to look from.

      Comment


      • #73
        Originally posted by CatchAndShoot View Post
        Carlos was also a southpaw lol. Very different styles, as Carlos committed to, and welcomed exchanges, and combination punching. And what happened to Carlos in the rematch? Yeah, got stopped.

        And as for the Margarito/Cotto fight. Cotto fought him off of him against the ropes like a dog, and used tremendous combination punching, and hard shots to earn margs respect, and that still didn't help him, since he got stopped later on in the fight.

        Which goes to my point that Floyd doesn't use combination punching, and doesn't have nearly the power that prime Cotto had. Which wouldn't earn margs respect, thus Margarito pinning him against the ropes all night, and teeing off on Floyd's body. Margarito's style was all wrong for Floyd, and even he knew it.

        Shane was able to land combination power punches against Margarito, again, something that Floyd doesn't do.

        Yeah, you're a **** rider.
        Re: the bold. Come on. Not you too.

        We both know - EVERYONE knows - that a Mayweather/Margacheato fight goes nearly exactly like Mayweather/Chavez, which I argue was his hardest fight yet most impressive in how he was able to get Chavez to quit. Chavez was using the same strategy that Cheato would try against Floyd and would suffer the same fate.

        Comment


        • #74
          Originally posted by revelated View Post
          Re: the bold. Come on. Not you too.

          We both know - EVERYONE knows - that a Mayweather/Margacheato fight goes nearly exactly like Mayweather/Chavez, which I argue was his hardest fight yet most impressive in how he was able to get Chavez to quit. Chavez was using the same strategy that Cheato would try against Floyd and would suffer the same fate.

          Come on man, Chavez was 5'6, and the fight wasn't at WW, where Floyd only throws single shot right hands.

          Comment


          • #75
            Originally posted by CatchAndShoot View Post
            Carlos was also a southpaw lol. Very different styles, as Carlos committed to, and welcomed exchanges, and combination punching. And what happened to Carlos in the rematch? Yeah, got stopped.

            And as for the Margarito/Cotto fight. Cotto fought him off of him against the ropes like a dog, and used tremendous combination punching, and hard shots to earn margs respect, and that still didn't help him, since he got stopped later on in the fight.

            Which goes to my point that Floyd doesn't use combination punching, and doesn't have nearly the power that prime Cotto had. Which wouldn't earn margs respect, thus Margarito pinning him against the ropes all night, and teeing off on Floyd's body. Margarito's style was all wrong for Floyd, and even he knew it.

            Shane was able to land combination power punches against Margarito, again, something that Floyd doesn't do.

            Yeah, you're a **** rider.


            lol....ok man....you just keep on living in that world where guys beaten by B level guys were going to beat the best fighter of the generation

            Comment


            • #76
              Originally posted by CatchAndShoot View Post
              Come on man, Chavez was 5'6, and the fight wasn't at WW, where Floyd only throws single shot right hands.
              Weight class had nothing to do with Floyd's throwing. I also should remind you that Floyd was tossing combos on the WBC Carne Franchise Champion AND Robert Guerrero AND Ricky Hatton.

              Height had nothing to do with anything either - since the majority of guys Floyd ever fought were way taller than him - and arguably, he had an easier time with them than with guys like Chavez and Burton who weren't.

              See, the problem is you're judging what you think would happen based on Floyd's post-2009 performances. What you SHOULD be doing is judging it as a pound-for-pound: meaning, at the time that fight was proposed by Bob Arum (2006), would THAT Floyd have beaten THAT Margacheato, regardless of weight?

              If you honestly think that the Floyd Mayweather that was fresh off running through Sharmba Mitchell was going to lose to a guy who (according to quite a few people at the time) barely got past Clottey and earned scorecards that were way too wide, you're nuts. Floyd was less defensive back then than he later became, and actually used offense and aggression with accuracy to win rounds. You saw it multiple times - his opponent would get some early success or just throw for the fences (Corley, Bruseles, N'Dou, etc), Floyd would eventually just say F it and start walking the guy down to a stoppage.

              Margacheato wasn't busy enough to have dealt with that strategy from Floyd; Floyd would have been racking points like crazy.

              Comment


              • #77
                Originally posted by revelated View Post
                Weight class had nothing to do with Floyd's throwing. I also should remind you that Floyd was tossing combos on the WBC Carne Franchise Champion AND Robert Guerrero AND Ricky Hatton.

                Height had nothing to do with anything either - since the majority of guys Floyd ever fought were way taller than him - and arguably, he had an easier time with them than with guys like Chavez and Burton who weren't.

                See, the problem is you're judging what you think would happen based on Floyd's post-2009 performances. What you SHOULD be doing is judging it as a pound-for-pound: meaning, at the time that fight was proposed by Bob Arum (2006), would THAT Floyd have beaten THAT Margacheato, regardless of weight?

                If you honestly think that the Floyd Mayweather that was fresh off running through Sharmba Mitchell was going to lose to a guy who (according to quite a few people at the time) barely got past Clottey and earned scorecards that were way too wide, you're nuts. Floyd was less defensive back then than he later became, and actually used offense and aggression with accuracy to win rounds. You saw it multiple times - his opponent would get some early success or just throw for the fences (Corley, Bruseles, N'Dou, etc), Floyd would eventually just say F it and start walking the guy down to a stoppage.

                Margacheato wasn't busy enough to have dealt with that strategy from Floyd; Floyd would have been racking points like crazy.
                Did you even watch the Guerrero fight? Floyd was not throwing combinations like crazy. He was mostly 1 ounch pot shotting. And a prime Margarito would've given Floyd hell. Once he moved up, he didn't throw combiantion punches, but rather threw the single right hand counters. And the shambra fight was at 140.

                Floyd would have success, of course, but Margarito had a very good chance of breaking him down, and getting points from landing on him against the ropes, and just keep coming forward, while not worrying about Floyd's single right hands.

                Comment


                • #78
                  Originally posted by PeterPancakes View Post
                  Taking chances like I did???? Floyd, you waited until Mosley was 40 years old...You never rematched Oscar.... You made Pacquiao wait 7 years..... You avoided Margarito. entirely. Taking chances has never been your thing.
                  10000000% on point!!! This ugly turd looking Mayweather never did anything good for boxing.

                  Comment


                  • #79
                    Fighting a way past his prime Gamboa is taking chances? Well, those were the types of chances Mayweather took. Waiting until opponents were on the decline before fighting them.

                    Comment


                    • #80
                      i couldn't agree with him more! green k to floyd

                      Comment

                      Working...
                      X
                      TOP