Serious question, did anyone beat more (CURRENT)world champs this decade then Floyd
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So none of these guys were in their prime so what is the point? You act like this mediocrity is something special.
Sugar Ray in his 20's beat at least 2 prime all time great fighters @ 147, a 154 beltholder, plus a jump up to mw and outpointed the mw king by the time he was 30 and Hagler was undisputed mw prob. 32?, and he took a vacation in between that as well, and you want to rant and rave about an over the hill Floyd, beating some over the hill paper champs?
Talk about low standards.Last edited by djtmal; 12-26-2019, 09:33 PM.Comment
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Im saying in the ATG and elite ranks prime is a career , the top guys when on top in the later years which they all were is a twilight of prime , prime is not a few destroy fights its about being in the top 10% of your best form.So none of these guys were in their prime so what is the point? You act like this mediocrity is something special.
Sugar Ray in his 20's beat at least 2 prime all time great fighters @ 147, a 154 beltholder, plus a jump up to mw and outpointed the mw king by the time he was 30 and Hagler was undisputed mw prob. 32?, and you want to rant and rave about Floyd beating some over the hill paper champs?
Talk about low standards.
There is mental prime and there is physical prime, you understand neither.
Go box some and get a little real knowledge.Comment
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They all didn't want to fight prime Floyd. Shane had a tooth that needed looked at lol. Cotto was at the Bruseles fight and didn't want none. Cotto himself said he never sought the fight. Floyd fought him at 154lbs. to give him no excuses. Floyd is older than all but Mosley. Mosley was the 2nd coming after Margarito and calling Fliyd out... then the same clowns called Shane old. That same Shane after Margarito was too much for Pacquiao according to Freddie Roach at the time. Pacquiao ducked full random Olympic style drug testing and Arum came up with all sorts of ducks. Bob ever build that stadium? Bob wanted 50/50 but wouldn't open and compare books for a fair split, knowing Floyd was the higher draw. Freddie admitted their side held up the fight. It would've always been a win for the older Floyd Mayweather, who fought more champions than these guys that ducked him in their primes.None of those guys are prime, all time great fighters so what's the big deal.
Put paper in front of champ instead of world will ya.
Cotto, Shane, and Manny were raked thru the coals. If they were prime that would have been special, but it's just a statistic with no substance.Comment
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From 2010-2015(only 5 years) Floyd beat
Mosley-WBA WW CHAMP P4P#3
Ortiz-WBC WW CHAMP
Cotto-WBA 154 CHAMP
Canelo-WBC,WBA,RING 154 CHAMP P4P#9
Maidana-WBA 147 CHAMP
Pacquaio-WBO 147 CHAMP P4P#2
Thats 6 world champions and 3 p4p top 10 boxers in 5 years
Now all i ask for is facts, no need for name calling or excuses..can you please list the champs others have defeated this decade..Ill do Canelo next
Canelo wins over current champs
Austin Trout-WBA 154 champ
Miguel Cotto -lineal 160 champ
Liam Smith-WBO-154 champ
Golovkin-WBC,WBA,IBF 160 CHAMP-P4P TOP 5
Kovalev-WBO 175 CHAMP
Fielding-WBA regular champ
So that is 6 for Canelo as well (interesting)
Now lets look at Manny
Jessie Vargas-WBO WW champ
Keith Thurman-WBA ww champ
thats 2 for Manny all the others were vacant title wins
Can anyone add any other boxers?
Timothy Bradley was WBO 147 champ.
Lucas Matthysse was WBA Regular champ
Chris Algieri was WBO 140 champ
Marquez was the WBO and WBA 135 champLast edited by RuleOfTheSpear; 12-26-2019, 09:40 PM.Comment
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cOrtiz and Maidana were in their prime....Cotto was during his second wind at 154 and Canelo was what 23-24? He had already beaten Kermit Cintron and Trout, he was close enough to his prime....
you Looked over the fact Floyd wasn’t in his prime for any of these fights either
I see you would not go as far as to say prime Canelo or Cotto, because you know you would not be telling the truth.
I would not consider beating a prime Ortiz or Maidana anything to write home about, and if Floyd is not prime, and the best guys isn't prime, what is so special about any of it.Comment
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In other words, compared to a real top tier all time great, Floyd comes up way short, despite your best effort to put spin on it.Im saying in the ATG and elite ranks prime is a career , the top guys when on top in the later years which they all were is a twilight of prime , prime is not a few destroy fights its about being in the top 10% of your best form.
There is mental prime and there is physical prime, you understand neither.
Go box some and get a little real knowledge.Comment
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Both TBE (not The Best Ever) and GrandPac have 6, so what? For TBE (not The Best Ever), no prime boxers... For GrandPac, only 3 prime boxers and 1 of those non-primes massacred him...
Donaire also has 6: Burnett, Vetyeka, Nishioka, Mathebula, Narvaez and Montiel... All in their prime...Comment
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