Now that AJ redeemed himself how will his loss still affect legacy?

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  • kafkod
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    #11
    Going straight back into a rematch against a man who destroyed him so emphatically and winning his titles back will enhance AJ's legacy. It took guts and heart to do that. Those are the qualities that fans admire most in fighters.

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    • a.rihn
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      #12
      Originally posted by _Rexy_

      Some will never forget it, and some have already forgotten.
      Exactly. Some people will focus on his loss, some will focus on his avenging that loss.

      I think that for a lot of people, there was already doubt in their mind about AJ - his charisma, his heart, and indeed his real talent. Many believed he was a paper champion fighting bums and ducking the hard fights. For those folks, the loss just confirmed what they already had seen. For AJ fans, on the other hand, they can point to the rematch and forget about the loss.

      Joshua has the chance now that he has tasted loss, to come back stronger and more determined, and prove his naysayers wrong. I don't think it is the loss that will determine his legacy, it is how he comes back from it.

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      • Boxingraya
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        #13
        Originally posted by Blue54
        A loss is loss especially a ko loss but he did take that L back.
        Lewis did the same and is praised for doing so so how does this affect him in long run.
        If his career ended today it would still hurt his legacy. AJ would need to win more big fights and it would only help AJ's legacy if Ruiz won a couple of more big fights himself.

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        • REDEEMER
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          #14
          AJ only had 19 fights when unifying,how could his sole loss possibly render his all around achievements and his marketing strength stronger after the loss ?

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          • PRINCEKOOL
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            #15
            There is still unfinished business with Andy Ruiz Junior 'Anthony Joshua won the rematch, but he has not entirely slayed the dragon' Ruiz Junior still thinks he can beat Anthony Joshua.

            When Lennox Lewis Avenged his loses, he slayed the dragon 'He obliterated Hasim Rahman and Oliver Mccall well? That fight was one sided'

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            • REDEEMER
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              #16
              Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
              There is still unfinished business with Andy Ruiz Junior 'Anthony Joshua won the rematch, but he has not entirely slayed the dragon' Ruiz Junior still thinks he can beat Anthony Joshua.

              When Lennox Lewis Avenged his loses, he slayed the dragon 'He obliterated Hasim Rahman and Oliver Mccall well? That fight was one sided'
              Ruiz can and probably say he can beat AJ if he lost 5 times , going into a 6th fight some would claim Ruiz has his number because I see a pattern on this forum. Ha

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              • Fanofreason
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                #17
                Big difference.

                AJ was dominated and dropped 4 times by Ruiz.

                Rahman caught Lennox with 1 lucky punch and ended him.

                AJ is not anywhere near any all time list. Good Lord trolls.

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                • Ccarroll2133
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                  #18
                  I think it raised his popularity and he is much better known now. Winning the direct rematch sounds great when you hear it. When you go back and watch the 2 fights it will look worse than just hearing people talk about it.

                  I think that Loss will overshadow the win with time because the AJ in the rematch looked scared to death. Ruiz gave him a nice gift by being too slow and not letting his hands go.

                  I think the fear he showed in the rematch will continue to be there and he will end up losing quite a few more fights before he's done. He looks like he's done fighting in the pocket, therefore done going for knockouts, but I hope I'm wrong.

                  Still waiting to hear what all his issues were before 1st fight, and if they are legit yes it will be easy to say that's why I got a beating, but not so easy to mentally recover from that beating.

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                  • aboutfkntime
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Blue54
                    A loss is loss especially a ko loss but he did take that L back.
                    Lewis did the same and is praised for doing so so how does this affect him in long run.




                    we need to wait and see what he does in the long run

                    you're right, he could turn everything around... or...

                    it is annoying to hear people criticize his win over Ruiz

                    hard luck for Ruiz if he came in overweight

                    he wasn't exactly a lightweight in the first fight either

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                    • THC
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by a.rihn
                      Joshua has the chance now that he has tasted loss, to come back stronger and more determined, and prove his naysayers wrong. I don't think it is the loss that will determine his legacy, it is how he comes back from it.
                      I think the immediate rematch was a good start even though it wasn't the most spectacular. Going forward, he has to win and win big against credible opposition, one man after another. That will lessen the impact of his loss against Ruiz.

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