Crawford asked Hearn to fight the winner of Garcia vs Vargas

[Jim Tom]

So the story behind this pic is Crawford was at the weigh in in Phoenix to support Mo Hooker who is trained by BoMac. Hearn said Crawford approached him and while they were talking Hearn gets a text from Carl Moretti saying no conversations with Terence Crawford while he's there. So Eddie texts him back and says to late I already signed him then he had Matchroom post this pic

Caption this... ����@EddieHearn @terencecrawford pic.twitter.com/om1PRN5vs2

— Matchroom Boxing (@MatchroomBoxing) December 20, 2019

Moretti responded

Sue first. Negotiate later. https://t.co/ZB1GNzXWBW

— Carl Moretti (@CarlMoretti) December 20, 2019

But Hearn said Crawford asked him if he could fight the winner of Garcia vs Vargas. It starts at the 30 minute mark

Eddie Hearn was showing Crawford some good numbers. Crawford couldn’t believe all the dough he could make with Hearn. I hope all these PBC fighters can wake up and smell the coffee. They are not maximising earnings over there. PBC was the thing a few years ago but there is a new sheriff in town now.

[paulf]

again, you have a sad view of life. I wanted to do some shows. I ended up doing over 60 of them, and worked with everyone from Don King to Dan Goosen to DelaHoya. Met a TON of great people along the way, and had experiences that most people cant get in 100 lifetimes. It was NEVER about money.

The metric is hilarious. Lou Dibella doesn't make **** on nine out of ten cards he puts on. He must not be a real promoter either. Kathy Duva? Fraud. Thompson Boxing? Pretenders.

[M Bison]

Would be truly hilarious if TR loses Crawford, then who do they have? It is getting to the point that Bob might want to call it a day.

[N/A]

The metric is hilarious. Lou Dibella doesn't make **** on nine out of ten cards he puts on. He must not be a real promoter either. Kathy Duva? Fraud. Thompson Boxing? Pretenders.

If you add up all the money Lou has made in the fight game and subtract all of the money he's lost, he's profited millions and millions of dollars.

Terry, by his own admission, failed miserably and lost hundreds of thousands of dollars attempting to be a promoter.

ANYBODY with money can go pay to play and call themselves a promoter while they flush money down the toilet so they can play dress up and pretend to be in the industry. Happens all the time.

But why should we point to Terry as some sort of industry expert when he performed so poorly in the industry and has nothing but hundreds of thousands of dollars in losses to show for his attempted foray into the sport?

Meanwhile, he's lying about Al Haymon, claiming it's illegal for Haymon to have Showtime wire the license fee to Haymon Sports, for Haymon to take his managerial commission, and then pay the fighters. That's not illegal. Terry is making that up.

[paulf]

If you add up all the money Lou has made in the fight game and subtract all of the money he's lost, he's profited millions and millions of dollars.

Terry, by his own admission, failed miserably and lost hundreds of thousands of dollars attempting to be a promoter.

ANYBODY with money can go pay to play and call themselves a promoter while they flush money down the toilet so they can play dress up and pretend to be in the industry. Happens all the time.

But why should we point to Terry as some sort of industry expert when he performed so poorly in the industry and has nothing but hundreds of thousands of dollars in losses to show for his attempted foray into the sport?

Meanwhile, he's lying about Al Haymon, claiming it's illegal for Haymon to have Showtime wire the license fee to Haymon Sports, for Haymon to take his managerial commission, and then pay the fighters. That's not illegal. Terry is making that up.

If you think he's wrong about the last paragraph fine, but implying that he's wrong due to the fact that he didn't hit the big time as a promoter is silly.

Everyone in the boxing game putting on shows and building fighters is losing money unless they hit the point when they're not. No different than record labels or any other form of venture capital. Managers can invest 50k-100k building guys to their first decent payday, hoping to get that money returned. Sometimes cheap investments pay off (Tevin Farmer), sometimes seemling safe ones blow up in their managers faces (Paddy Barnes). Hell, PBC/Haymon were just doing pay to play on Fox before they landed the contract!

Implying OnePunch is clueless because he closed up shop without becoming a big-name promoter is comical, dude. Universum was huge, lost their TV contract and disappeared over night. Golden Boy would have been reduced to exclusively SoCal club shows if not for having Canelo to keep the lights on. These are not clueless people running these companies (maybe drunk, but not clueless), but the industry is fickle. All it takes is a few fighters losing fights they were expected to win to put the business in a cash crunch.

[OnePunch]

If you think he's wrong about the last paragraph fine, but implying that he's wrong due to the fact that he didn't hit the big time as a promoter is silly.

Everyone in the boxing game putting on shows and building fighters is losing money unless they hit the point when they're not. No different than record labels or any other form of venture capital. Managers can invest 50k-100k building guys to their first decent payday, hoping to get that money returned. Sometimes cheap investments pay off (Tevin Farmer), sometimes seemling safe ones blow up in their managers faces (Paddy Barnes). Hell, PBC/Haymon were just doing pay to play on Fox before they landed the contract!

Implying OnePunch is clueless because he closed up shop without becoming a big-name promoter is comical, dude. Universum was huge, lost their TV contract and disappeared over night. Golden Boy would have been reduced to exclusively SoCal club shows if not for having Canelo to keep the lights on. These are not clueless people running these companies (maybe drunk, but not clueless), but the industry is fickle. All it takes is a few fighters losing fights they were expected to win to put the business in a cash crunch.

He's a complete clown, and a total pretender. I "lost" about 20 grand a year, over the course of a decade on my club shows. It is virtually impossible to make money on club shows, unless you do garbage shows (which I did not). But I didnt care, because I didnt need the money. And when I partnered up with the big boys and co-promoted bigger shows in my market, I made a good bit of money. So in the end, it probably was a wash. He likes to imply that somehow other promoters were able to take advantage of me, but I never invested a nickel in those bigger shows, and was paid a flat fee for all the site work. I was even able to go do site work for King on events like Trinidad-Jones, or for DeGuardia, Shaw, Golden Boy, etc. And even though I got paid well for that work, truthfully I would have done it for free.

Bottom feeders like him have to pinch every penny. You can tell his mentality by the fact that he "brags" about making a few hundred grand. As if that is life changing money or something.

And his entire viewpoint is flawed. He looks down his nose at local club show promoters who use their own money, but walks behind guys like Haymon begging them to fart so he can sniff it. Haymon has probably lost more money (other peoples of course) than every club show promoter in the history of the sport combined.

what a clown.

[N/A]

If you think he's wrong about the last paragraph fine, but implying that he's wrong due to the fact that he didn't hit the big time as a promoter is silly.

You have it backwards. He implies he's right because he was a promoter. I say he's wrong because he happens to be wrong, but when he tries to play the promoter card, I point out that he failed as a promoter, lost hundreds of thousands of dollars and closed up shop. Anybody can pay to play. That doesn't make you an expert. So he shouldn't try to use his "experience" as bonafide credentials because he never found any success.

He pushes bizarre conspiracy theories and makes false accusations. His interpretations of the Ali act are completely off base and flat out wrong. He's trying to distract from that as much as he can. Showtime wiring the license fee to the company that manages both fighters isn't an Ali act violation. You know it. I know it. He's crazy.

[N/A]

He's a complete clown, and a total pretender.

I have weekly national TV in twenty countries and ran a live PPV last month on InDemand, DirecTV, Dish, etc. If you think I'm a clown, fine. But I'm not a pretender. I'm actively making my living in combat sports, negotiating with fighters and venues daily. A currently licensed boxing and wrestling promoter in numerous states dealing with commissions, networks, etc.

When you were doing site work for DKP, I was working for DKP at the time. I've told you before that you and I have met numerous times. This **** is a hobby for you, fine. No problem. But don't compare yourself to those that live and breathe this day in and day out, decade after decade as their entire life. You paid money to dress up and play fanboy. It's not the same thing.

You're wrong about the Ali act and I suspect you're starting to realize that, which is why you keep changing the subject. There's absolutely nothing in the Ali act that bars Showtime from wiring the license fee to the management company handling all the fighters.

[OnePunch]

You're wrong about the Ali act and I suspect you're starting to realize that, which is why you keep changing the subject. There's absolutely nothing in the Ali act that bars Showtime from wiring the license fee to the management company handling all the fighters.

I dont think for 1 second that Im wrong about my interpretation of the Ali Act, but even if I am, SO WHAT? WHO CARES?? Why are you so threatened by someone else's opinion? Especially if im just a low level nobody like you claim. Why do you care what I think? I certainly couldnt give a **** ass what YOU think.

And I sincerely doubt that I ever met you when I was doing site stuff for Don, because all of his people, Dana, Bobby Goodman, Teddy Singleton, Juan Gonzalez, etc were all really good people. I would DEFINITELY have remembered an arrogant pretender like yourself.

And for the life of me, I cant understand why you are so obsessed with "profit". As if profit has anything to do with show operations. Whether a show makes money or not, EVERYTHING is the same. Venue details are the same. Logistics are the same. Commission interactions are the same. Fighter camp interactions are the same. Sanctioning body interactions are the same. Broadcast partner interactions are the same. NONE of that changes based on whether or not the show made money. And WHO CARES if a show makes money or not? Is Haymon incompetent because Wilders last 2 fights lost money? Is Arum incompetent because Crawfords last 2 fights lost money? What is your hang up with money? Its bizarre. Especially since you worship a guy who has probably lost more money than every promoter in the past 100 years combined. But but but chess doe. lol

[N/A]

I dont think for 1 second that Im wrong about my interpretation of the Ali Act, but even if I am, SO WHAT? WHO CARES??

Because you try to post here as some sort of authority, even though you have no idea what you're talking about. You've lied about Haymon over and over, year after year. Been proven wrong over and over, year after year. You have a delusional vendetta. Haymon pushed out the little guys, you were a little guy, so you rooted for him to fail. When he didn't fail, you got even more bitter.

Why are you so threatened by someone else's opinion?

Because it's not an opinion. You're just lying about fact.

And I sincerely doubt that I ever met you when I was doing site stuff for Don, because all of his people, Dana, Bobby Goodman, Teddy Singleton, Juan Gonzalez, etc were all really good people. I would DEFINITELY have remembered an arrogant pretender like yourself.

Not arrogant and not a pretender. The fact that I've been right over and over, and as the years go by, we can check our past interactions and see you were wrong every time, should show you who the pretender is. You literally spent money to pretend to be a promoter dude.

Whether a show makes money or not, EVERYTHING is the same.

You were never able to find any success in the combat sports industry. This is important because you try to speak as some sort of experienced authority, even though the only thing you experienced is failure.

What is your hang up with money? Its bizarre. Especially since you worship a guy who has probably lost more money than every promoter in the past 100 years combined. But but but chess doe. lol

I worship Don King, not Al Haymon. Haymon made his fortune in music. He's a bright guy, and I think what he's doing is good for the long term health of US boxing, but what Don did in boxing is far more impressive. He started with nothing. Al started already having a personal fortune of hundreds of millions of dollars before he ever got involved in boxing.