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  • Robbie Barrett
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    #11
    Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
    Wilder is making three times the amount Whyte offered now. Sounds like a savvy business man to me.
    That doesn't change the fact he turned down his highest pay day. Now does not change the past. Wilder could not have predicted what happened. He didn't plan to lose to Fury and get a robbery draw. He didn't know DAZN would make an insane offer and force Haymon to up his purses and lose money.

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    • ShaneMosleySr
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      #12
      So Whyte ducked a Joshua rematch and Joshua ducked Wilder then?

      Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
      That doesn't change the fact he turned down his highest pay day. Now does not change the past. Wilder could not have predicted what happened. He didn't plan to lose to Fury and get a robbery draw. He didn't know DAZN would make an insane offer and force Haymon to up his purses and lose money.

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      • Robbie Barrett
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        #13
        Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
        So Whyte ducked a Joshua rematch and Joshua ducked Wilder then?
        How can you duck an offer which is impossible to accept?

        Joshua has network contracts. He can't sign a deal that gives his opponent full control of television rights. Why does this need to be explained over and over and over. FFS.

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          #14
          I thought Joshua has a fight to fight deal with DAZN

          Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
          How can you duck an offer which is impossible to accept?

          Joshua has network contracts. He can't sign a deal that gives his opponent full control of television rights. Why does this need to be explained over and over and over. FFS.

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            #15
            Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
            I thought Joshua has a fight to fight deal with DAZN
            He has a contract with Sky. Hearn asked for the full terms because Joshua had commitments. Wilders side refused to give them. Turns out they were negotiating with BT. So there you have it, an impossible offer for Joshua to accept.

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            • Slicc
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              #16
              Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
              Whyte hasn’t been named a mandatory yet and he and Wilder haven’t fought.

              Whyte already lost to Joshua. He also clearly isn’t as qualified as Tyson Fury, who Wilder is fighting.

              Yet, Wilder is accused of ducking Whyte. Why?
              The WBC was accused of protecting Wilder, because they held off on making Whyte his mandatory, despite him having held the #1 spot for ages. Wilder was accused of ducking Whyte, mainly for telling him he'd freeze him out for 2 years, then telling him to sign under Al Haymon. There are a lot of details you haven't included in your post. You're being pretty disingenuous.

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                #17
                Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
                Whyte hasn’t been named a mandatory yet and he and Wilder haven’t fought.

                Whyte already lost to Joshua. He also clearly isn’t as qualified as Tyson Fury, who Wilder is fighting.

                Yet, Wilder is accused of ducking Whyte. Why?

                I don’t see people calling Joshua our for ducking Charr/Bryan.

                I don’t see people calling Yuniel Dorticos for ducking Ruslan Fayfer.

                I don’t see people calling out Arslan Goulamirian for ducking Ryad Merhy.

                I don’t see people calling out Artur Beterbiev for ducking Gilberto Ramirez

                I don’t see people calling out Dmitry Bivol for ducking Dominic Boesel

                I don’t see people calling out Billy Joe Saunders for ducking Rohan Murdock

                I don’t see people calling out Callum Smith for ducking Fedor Chunidov

                I don’t see people calling out Canelo Alvarez for ducking Chris Eubank Jr.

                I don’t see people calling out Julian Williams for ducking Bakhram Murtazilev


                I don’t see people calling out Errol Spence for ducking Kudratillo Abdukakhorov

                I don’t see people calling out Manny Pacquiao for ducking Bes*****/Ugas

                I don’t see Jose Ramirez getting called out for ducking Jack Catteral

                I don’t see Josh Taylor getting called out for ducking Apinan Kongsong or Mario Barrios or
                Alberto Puello

                I don’t see Vasyl Lomachenko getting called out for ducking Lee Selby

                I don’t see Jamel Herring or Miguel Berchelt getting called out for ducking Oscar Valdez

                I don’t see Leo Santa Cruz getting called out for not fighting Rene Alvarado or Jayson Velez

                I don’t see Shakur Stevenson called out for not fighting Michael Conlan

                I don’t see Emmanuel Navarrette getting called out for not fighting Albert Pagara

                I don’t see Daniel Roman getting called out for not fighting Ryosuke Iwasa, Brandon Figueroa or Murodjan
                Akhmadaliev

                I don’t see Rey Vargas getting called out for not fighting TJ Doheny

                I don’t see John Casimero getting called out for not fighting Joshua Greer

                I don’t see Naoya Inoue getting called out for not fighting Michael Dasmarinas or Liborio Solis

                I don’t see Nordine Oubaalie getting called out for not fighting Nonito Donaire

                I don’t see Kazuto Ioka getting called out for not fighting Jeyvier Cintron

                I don’t see Kal Yafai getting called out for not fighting Andrew Moloney

                I don’t see Kosei Tanaka getting called out for not fighting Giemel Magramo

                I don’t see Artem Dalakian getting called out for not fighting Junto Nakatani

                I don’t see Wanheng Menyothin getting called out for not fighting Melvin Jerusalem

                I don’t see Thammanoon Niyomtrong getting called out for not fighting Jose Argumendo

                I don’t see Wilfredo Mendez getting called out for not fighting Roberto Paradero

                So why is Wilder-Whyte a special circumstance?
                Whytes got a better resume.wilder should stop dodging. Wilder says everyone scared of him?

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                  #18
                  Whyte turned down an eliminator that would’ve made him the mandatory...if he wanted to fight Wilder that bad he should’ve accepted it...that’s on Whyte

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                  • ShaneMosleySr
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                    #19
                    Sounds like a he said-he said to me.

                    Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                    He has a contract with Sky. Hearn asked for the full terms because Joshua had commitments. Wilders side refused to give them. Turns out they were negotiating with BT. So there you have it, an impossible offer for Joshua to accept.

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                      #20
                      Maybe Whyte shouldn’t have turned down the wbc final eliminator? Sounds like it’s his own fault to me.

                      Originally posted by Slicc
                      The WBC was accused of protecting Wilder, because they held off on making Whyte his mandatory, despite him having held the #1 spot for ages. Wilder was accused of ducking Whyte, mainly for telling him he'd freeze him out for 2 years, then telling him to sign under Al Haymon. There are a lot of details you haven't included in your post. You're being pretty disingenuous.

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