Wilder is the only fighter accused of ducking a random #1 contender

[Legends456]

Whyte hasn’t been named a mandatory yet and he and Wilder haven’t fought.

Whyte already lost to Joshua. He also clearly isn’t as qualified as Tyson Fury, who Wilder is fighting.

Yet, Wilder is accused of ducking Whyte. Why?

I don’t see people calling Joshua our for ducking Charr/Bryan.

I don’t see people calling Yuniel Dorticos for ducking Ruslan Fayfer.

I don’t see people calling out Arslan Goulamirian for ducking Ryad Merhy.

I don’t see people calling out Artur Beterbiev for ducking Gilberto Ramirez

I don’t see people calling out Dmitry Bivol for ducking Dominic Boesel

I don’t see people calling out Billy Joe Saunders for ducking Rohan Murdock

I don’t see people calling out Callum Smith for ducking Fedor Chunidov

I don’t see people calling out Canelo Alvarez for ducking Chris Eubank Jr.

I don’t see people calling out Julian Williams for ducking Bakhram Murtazilev


I don’t see people calling out Errol Spence for ducking Kudratillo Abdukakhorov

I don’t see people calling out Manny Pacquiao for ducking Bes*****/Ugas

I don’t see Jose Ramirez getting called out for ducking Jack Catteral

I don’t see Josh Taylor getting called out for ducking Apinan Kongsong or Mario Barrios or
Alberto Puello

I don’t see Vasyl Lomachenko getting called out for ducking Lee Selby

I don’t see Jamel Herring or Miguel Berchelt getting called out for ducking Oscar Valdez

I don’t see Leo Santa Cruz getting called out for not fighting Rene Alvarado or Jayson Velez

I don’t see Shakur Stevenson called out for not fighting Michael Conlan

I don’t see Emmanuel Navarrette getting called out for not fighting Albert Pagara

I don’t see Daniel Roman getting called out for not fighting Ryosuke Iwasa, Brandon Figueroa or Murodjan
Akhmadaliev

I don’t see Rey Vargas getting called out for not fighting TJ Doheny

I don’t see John Casimero getting called out for not fighting Joshua Greer

I don’t see Naoya Inoue getting called out for not fighting Michael Dasmarinas or Liborio Solis

I don’t see Nordine Oubaalie getting called out for not fighting Nonito Donaire

I don’t see Kazuto Ioka getting called out for not fighting Jeyvier Cintron

I don’t see Kal Yafai getting called out for not fighting Andrew Moloney

I don’t see Kosei Tanaka getting called out for not fighting Giemel Magramo

I don’t see Artem Dalakian getting called out for not fighting Junto Nakatani

I don’t see Wanheng Menyothin getting called out for not fighting Melvin Jerusalem

I don’t see Thammanoon Niyomtrong getting called out for not fighting Jose Argumendo

I don’t see Wilfredo Mendez getting called out for not fighting Roberto Paradero

So why is Wilder-Whyte a special circumstance?

Great post!

[Legends456]

Marciano and Valdes comes to mind.

In 53 and 54 Valdes would be the number one contender.

Marciano handled the rematch with Walcott in 53 along a rematch with Roland LaStarza.

Let me take a sec to explain LaStarza because I realize to most he was just a guy Marciano KO'd. LaStarza was a massively popular prospect from the Bronx because he developed a new type of defense never before done in the ring. He'd stick to the outside and when folks would cut him off and trap him he'd guard the blows with his elbows and lean against the ropes so the ropes absorbed the force for him...you know, like Rope-a-Dope done by Ali a generation later. He's the guy who pioneered it. In their first meeting Marciano was coming off putting a man in a comma, I'm sure LaStarza did look good. In their second meeting, in 54, Bill Libby reports Marciano shattered that fool's elbows.

Now it's 54, Nino is still number one but Marciano fight Ezzard Charles instead. Charles gives Marciano a good fight and makes it the the final bell after 15 so Marciano runs it back. Marciano gets his nose split in two, Charles gets laid to rest.

Now it's 55 but Nino Valdes is no longer the number one contender. Archie Moore outpointed and totally schooled that fool for a 15rnd UD. Marciano then fights and KOs Moore and retires.




Laid out like that you can see how a case is made by many for Marciano ducking Valdes. Take a look at Valdes's resume and you'll quickly realize the question isn't why didn't Marciano fight Valdes but rather what the sam **** was Valdes ever doing ranked as the number one contender? Which is probably why quite a lot of you probably never heard of Valdes.





They have a lot in common, Marciano and Wilder.

Great post, and I agree with you that Marciano and Wilder have a lot in common.

[juggernaut666]

Wilder is making three times the amount Whyte offered now. Sounds like a savvy business man to me.

That’s because you’re a fool who thinks getting a few million more after lucking out on a fight he should have lost was SMART ?

Here’s how smart he was......


The bright business man Wilder had he defeated Whyte then gets at minimum what he was offered from DAZN per fight at least and wouldn’t be in a situation now where a loss to Fury almost certainly eliminates his mega payday with Joshua not that he’s looking for one obviously , yea that’s real smart and considering he shouldn’t be champion right now and forget Fury he almost dropped the ball when Ortiz was actually looking decent and lucky it was his teams Barclays center for that one and would have left the scene with a career high pay of 2.2 million ......

The level of dumbness he resinates is beyond comprehension ,he literally cost himself millions he won’t get back if he loses now and the very least a Joshua loss last year still gets him two fights and his own PPV path which he cant do without Fury now????,


If you can’t understand how idiotic this is and the dumb decisions made you must be a Wilder ? Lol

[Outwest Exp 355]

Hearn was trying to give Wilder a profile boost , don’t go lying again and say he didn’t need one because his last fight proves otherwise .

Hearn offered Joshua at that time as well so just stop lying in general creating stories to suit the Wilder agenda ,it’s clear as daylight Wilder avoided both Whyte and AJ for different reasons . It’s just how it was and the excuse king Wilder is why he loses at least my respect since on here and it ended with the broken arm one against Fury .Ha

Child please you were around then and you know what happened. I won’t let you play dumb just because it fits your agenda.

[aboutfkntime]

Whyte hasn’t been named a mandatory yet and he and Wilder haven’t fought.

Whyte already lost to Joshua. He also clearly isn’t as qualified as Tyson Fury, who Wilder is fighting.

Yet, Wilder is accused of ducking Whyte. Why?

I don’t see people calling Joshua our for ducking Charr/Bryan.

I don’t see people calling Yuniel Dorticos for ducking Ruslan Fayfer.

I don’t see people calling out Arslan Goulamirian for ducking Ryad Merhy.

I don’t see people calling out Artur Beterbiev for ducking Gilberto Ramirez

I don’t see people calling out Dmitry Bivol for ducking Dominic Boesel

I don’t see people calling out Billy Joe Saunders for ducking Rohan Murdock

I don’t see people calling out Callum Smith for ducking Fedor Chunidov

I don’t see people calling out Canelo Alvarez for ducking Chris Eubank Jr.

I don’t see people calling out Julian Williams for ducking Bakhram Murtazilev


I don’t see people calling out Errol Spence for ducking Kudratillo Abdukakhorov

I don’t see people calling out Manny Pacquiao for ducking Bes*****/Ugas

I don’t see Jose Ramirez getting called out for ducking Jack Catteral

I don’t see Josh Taylor getting called out for ducking Apinan Kongsong or Mario Barrios or
Alberto Puello

I don’t see Vasyl Lomachenko getting called out for ducking Lee Selby

I don’t see Jamel Herring or Miguel Berchelt getting called out for ducking Oscar Valdez

I don’t see Leo Santa Cruz getting called out for not fighting Rene Alvarado or Jayson Velez

I don’t see Shakur Stevenson called out for not fighting Michael Conlan

I don’t see Emmanuel Navarrette getting called out for not fighting Albert Pagara

I don’t see Daniel Roman getting called out for not fighting Ryosuke Iwasa, Brandon Figueroa or Murodjan
Akhmadaliev

I don’t see Rey Vargas getting called out for not fighting TJ Doheny

I don’t see John Casimero getting called out for not fighting Joshua Greer

I don’t see Naoya Inoue getting called out for not fighting Michael Dasmarinas or Liborio Solis

I don’t see Nordine Oubaalie getting called out for not fighting Nonito Donaire

I don’t see Kazuto Ioka getting called out for not fighting Jeyvier Cintron

I don’t see Kal Yafai getting called out for not fighting Andrew Moloney

I don’t see Kosei Tanaka getting called out for not fighting Giemel Magramo

I don’t see Artem Dalakian getting called out for not fighting Junto Nakatani

I don’t see Wanheng Menyothin getting called out for not fighting Melvin Jerusalem

I don’t see Thammanoon Niyomtrong getting called out for not fighting Jose Argumendo

I don’t see Wilfredo Mendez getting called out for not fighting Roberto Paradero

So why is Wilder-Whyte a special circumstance?

Golovkin just ducked 2x undefeated champions

Wilder is fighting Fury... so, who cares about Whyte ?

[Zelda]

There is a lot of politics in boxing. Whyte did not get voluntary because they are in different stables that do not have the greatest of relationships. Also, because Whyte did not make career smart fights to get a mandatory position.

Breazeale was mandatory and Ortiz is with PBC. Whyte was neither. Whyte has been ducking eliminators and gone for prize-fighting...fair enough, but then do not expect to be mandatory.

• Whyte was voluntarily offered to sign a 2-3 fight contract with PBC and guaranteed shot at Wilder...he refused.
• Whyte was voluntarily offered to fight Ortiz and, if he wins, he gets Wilder...again refused.
• Whyte was again asked by WBC to fight Ortiz as an eliminator to become future mandatory...but he refused.
• Whyte was asked to fight Pulev for mandatory for Joshua...but he refused.
• Whyte was offered voluntary Joshua fight before AJ went to the US...but he refused.

WBC is just one body. There are 4 more but Whyte wasn't mandatory for even one...why? At last, Eddie muscled his way and got the WBC to make Whyte - Rivas as eliminator even though Rivas was neither No. 2 or No. 3 or No. 4 or No. 5. So, technically, it should NOT have been an eliminator. Statistically, Whyte has 4 times more probability to get to Joshua than to get to Wilder. But he hasn't fought Joshua, yet is blaming WBC and Wilder.

Whyte has no business blaming anyone but himself.

[DaNeutral.]

Whyte hasn’t been named a mandatory yet and he and Wilder haven’t fought.

Whyte already lost to Joshua. He also clearly isn’t as qualified as Tyson Fury, who Wilder is fighting.

Yet, Wilder is accused of ducking Whyte. Why?

I don’t see people calling Joshua our for ducking Charr/Bryan.

I don’t see people calling Yuniel Dorticos for ducking Ruslan Fayfer.

I don’t see people calling out Arslan Goulamirian for ducking Ryad Merhy.

I don’t see people calling out Artur Beterbiev for ducking Gilberto Ramirez

I don’t see people calling out Dmitry Bivol for ducking Dominic Boesel

I don’t see people calling out Billy Joe Saunders for ducking Rohan Murdock

I don’t see people calling out Callum Smith for ducking Fedor Chunidov

I don’t see people calling out Canelo Alvarez for ducking Chris Eubank Jr.

I don’t see people calling out Julian Williams for ducking Bakhram Murtazilev


I don’t see people calling out Errol Spence for ducking Kudratillo Abdukakhorov

I don’t see people calling out Manny Pacquiao for ducking Bes*****/Ugas

I don’t see Jose Ramirez getting called out for ducking Jack Catteral

I don’t see Josh Taylor getting called out for ducking Apinan Kongsong or Mario Barrios or
Alberto Puello

I don’t see Vasyl Lomachenko getting called out for ducking Lee Selby

I don’t see Jamel Herring or Miguel Berchelt getting called out for ducking Oscar Valdez

I don’t see Leo Santa Cruz getting called out for not fighting Rene Alvarado or Jayson Velez

I don’t see Shakur Stevenson called out for not fighting Michael Conlan

I don’t see Emmanuel Navarrette getting called out for not fighting Albert Pagara

I don’t see Daniel Roman getting called out for not fighting Ryosuke Iwasa, Brandon Figueroa or Murodjan
Akhmadaliev

I don’t see Rey Vargas getting called out for not fighting TJ Doheny

I don’t see John Casimero getting called out for not fighting Joshua Greer

I don’t see Naoya Inoue getting called out for not fighting Michael Dasmarinas or Liborio Solis

I don’t see Nordine Oubaalie getting called out for not fighting Nonito Donaire

I don’t see Kazuto Ioka getting called out for not fighting Jeyvier Cintron

I don’t see Kal Yafai getting called out for not fighting Andrew Moloney

I don’t see Kosei Tanaka getting called out for not fighting Giemel Magramo

I don’t see Artem Dalakian getting called out for not fighting Junto Nakatani

I don’t see Wanheng Menyothin getting called out for not fighting Melvin Jerusalem

I don’t see Thammanoon Niyomtrong getting called out for not fighting Jose Argumendo

I don’t see Wilfredo Mendez getting called out for not fighting Roberto Paradero

So why is Wilder-Whyte a special circumstance?

Did any of these other fighters send texts 2 years ago saying they were guna freeze those other fighters out for 2 years? Im guessing that hasnt helped Deontays circumstances here. Wilder told Whyte he was going to duck him, then he did just that. I think thats why everybody is saying Wilder is ducking Whyte.

Whyte has been a top 10 fighter in the Heavyweight division for a good while now. If Deontay had any honour and believed hes the best he should of WANTED TO FIGHT HIM by now.

[Laligalaliga]

Is it Deontay Wilder’s fault Dillian Whyte has been a number one contender for so long?

Nope but it is Dillian Whyte’s fault because he’s avoided final eliminators.

And why is Wilder the only fighter you blame for turning down career high paydays?

Joshua turned down a career high payday to fight Wilder. Why wasn’t that a duck?

Whyte turned down a career high payday to fight Joshua. Why wasn’t that a duck?

Does it matter that Wilder is making three times as much as that now? Not to you for some reason.

Why make a Lind story out of this....most people say whyte is easy fight for wilder that comes with high career money.
It makes a lot of business sense. wilder has fought a lot of voluntaries for far less money.
Its obvious something is wrong somewhere. This bum might not actually be a bum like most want to discredit him.
Be that as it may, final eliminator only comes up when whyte's name is been mentioned in wilders camp.
Areola, spilka, Ortiz, fury dahaupas don't need a final eliminator but whyte do.
Its funny.
People want to turn blind eye to these facts.

[JakeTheBoxer]

Wilder is the only fighter who has been champ for nearly 5 years and fought ONE good guy. his resume is full of bums and club fighters.

If he was European, Americans would call him a bum.

[Slicc]

Maybe Whyte shouldn’t have turned down the wbc final eliminator? Sounds like it’s his own fault to me.

Whyte not only had the #1 spot, but he also won the WBC silver title off of Browne. Jermall Charlo got the mandatory position on Canelo for holding the interim belt, but Whyte gets screwed. The silver belt was made to replace the interim belt, so you'd think it'd be worth as much, if not more. Dominic Breazeale got the mandatory spot, when he wasn't even ranked on the top 5, last time I checked. Whyte got banned until 2021, despite passing VADA tests, but Nery failed a drug test leading up to his first match against Yamanaka, and got off Scot free.