Comments Thread For: Hearn Offers Charlo One-Fight Deal For Andrade May Unification

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  • RoyJonesJrp4pno1
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    #501
    Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
    If you're trying to build your long term brand, you're much better off with the high visibility of Fox than you are fighting on DAZN in front of nobody.

    When you fight on Fox, your Face to Face, Fight Camp and Countdown specials air on all the Fox affiliates with millions of people watching. Those specials also air dozens of times on FS1 and FS2, with hundreds of thousands of people watching.

    When you fight on DAZN, nobody knows about it. Yes, you might make a million or two more, but at what cost?

    Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
    Do you know how to read? I wrote:

    "2.5 million people watched Charlo the last time he fought on Fox"

    Nowhere did I say "Charlo's last fight was on Fox."
    So Charlo 160 has done phuck all or nothing with that visibility from fighting on Fox in front of 2.5m viewers from December 2018. Within 1 year his viewership declined by 91%.

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      #502
      Originally posted by RoyJonesJrp4pno1
      I don't doubt that Showtimes numbers are 'higher' but they ain't 'much higher'. Charlo vs Hogan had 250k viewers. DAZN cards are probably averaging out at around 100-150k.
      Here's what I don't understand.

      The Showtime app, which is not counted by the TV ratings, has millions of subscribers. Way way more than DAZN's app.

      Charlo vs Hogan peaked at 275k viewers on the actual Showtime television channel. But the fight also aired live on Showtime's app, which is subscribed to directly just like DAZN, and therefore, like DAZN, doesn't have published Nielsen ratings.

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        #503
        Originally posted by RoyJonesJrp4pno1
        So Charlo 160 has done phuck all or nothing with that visibility from fighting on Fox in front of 2.5m viewers from December 2018. Within 1 year his viewership declined by 91%.
        Are you not aware that Showtime has millions of non-cable/satellite subscribers? None of which are included in Nielsen TV ratings?

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        • RoyJonesJrp4pno1
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          #504
          Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
          Are you not aware that Showtime has millions of non-cable/satellite subscribers? None of which are included in Nielsen TV ratings?
          Yes I am aware of that. Is this where you're going to tell me that millions of people were watching but weren't included in the Nielsen Ratings?

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            #505
            Originally posted by Curt Henning
            i think we all really know, deep down, that hearn isnt offering someone big money to come over to DAZN and take a belt off his guy without having an option on them for at least one more fight....i mean anyone who understands the business side of it just a little probably realizes that.....DAZN isnt going to overpay guys like tank and charlo to come over and let them beat their guy and just walk away......im sure he wants you to think that....but its just not realistic....

            what hearn is hoping is to get guys like charlo and tank over there...match their next fight and get them thinking "wow this isnt bad over here i think i wanna stay".....
            Makes sense. On the other hand, Jose Ramirez has taken Hooker's belt and gone back to TR/ESPN without any issues.
            🤷🏿*♂️

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              #506
              Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
              Are you not aware that Showtime has millions of non-cable/satellite subscribers? None of which are included in Nielsen TV ratings?
              and wilder-ortiz actually made money if you include all the invisible dollars

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                #507
                Originally posted by RoyJonesJrp4pno1
                Yes I am aware of that.
                So then why did you falsely claim that viewership was down 90%?

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                  #508
                  Originally posted by champion4ever
                  Bingo! You hit the hammer on the nail. Now you see why Al Haymon is so reluctant in allowing his fighters to fight over there because once they get them he may never get them back. DAZN would try to steal them all away from him in order to build their brand.
                  So haymon (and every one else) should never allow their fighters to cross the street?

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                  • Thuglife Nelo
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                    #509
                    Does anybody know if girls unify purses at malls? Get it?! Mall!

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                      #510
                      Originally posted by j.razor
                      I'd rather 1 of them fight Nelo or pvssy-g 1st cuz all they doing is trying to get them to eliminate each other from Nelo or pvssy-g.
                      I don't think the Charlo-Andrade winner would be eliminated from Canelo or GGG. If anything the winner would establish himself as their biggest threat at 160

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