Hearn lowballs Charlo for a fight with Andrade

[Citizen Koba]

Just when you think these sanctioning bodies could not screw things up worse, this franchise designation makes the sport even more fractious and confusing as to who should be fighting who. I suppose the WBC MW belt does have some cachet or prestige because of its history but it's like Charlo's been invited to a party but he's not allowed to leave the kitchen.

Although Sulaiman is the one who concocted this scam, Canelo and Loma are the ones who accepted their new titles. They share the blame for supporting this fraudulence. Well, Loma less so because at least he's planning to fight other belt holders next, Lopez and Davis.

I mean it really is bullchit, but principally I hold Suliaman responsible. It would be nice to think that fighters do shit for the good of the sport, but honestly far as I'm concerned I don't expect them to do anything other than look after their own self interest, especially given the ruthless nature of the business and the relatively short timespan these dudes have a the peak of their earning power.

It's ostensibly the role of the sanctioning bodies to bring some order to the every man for himself free-for-all that the sport would otherwise be and in that the WBC have taken a huge step backwards for my money.

[Dreamer213]

Mikey vs Vargas a non title fight gets $7 mil but Andrade vs. Charlo a unification only gets $5-7 mil?

GGG would get $15 mil for a unification with Andrade but GGG refuses to fight him. Billy Joe, Jacobs, Callum Smith and Canelo also refuses to fight Charlo. Canelo has dismissed Andrade while saying he would fight Charlo.

Eddie needs Charlo for Andrade while Charlo has Dervychenko, Eubank Jr, and Korobov as well as some 154 lb champs who are moving up in 2021. Eddie has a stable of fighters that won't fight Andrade. He needs to pay Charlo the same money GGG would get with a unification with Andrade.

So in your opinion 6-7 million for Charlo to fight Andrade on a one fight deal on DAZN is lowballing Charlo?? Yes Charlo can fight Korobov again or Eubank but is he gonna make 5-6 million fighting them???? And they also aren't champions let's not forget that...

[Thraxox]

do you ever go into other threads calling guys (insert name) "anything the pbc does is awful and anything that benefits its or black fighters is bad"(insert name)....???

i doubt it

How about you? Do you ever go into other threads without whining about GGG or Anthony Joshua in some form?

I doubt it.

[MulaKO]

Charlo makes how much at the moment
I think the money being offered to him is more than fughin generous
On top of it all it’s a one-off deal
Then he can get big Al to pay him more , at least he’ll have earned it

[Larry the boss]

no way in hell Charlo deserves 15 million man..lol

[kafkod]

do you ever go into other threads calling guys (insert name) "anything the pbc does is awful and anything that benefits its or black fighters is bad"(insert name)....???

i doubt it

It is a lowball offer because (insert PBC fighter's name) is already being paid (insert imaginary sum of money) by Haymon in undisclosed fees.

[kafkod]

Has the $6 - 7 million figure been confirmed? I'd be maybe questioning that first, but if it is accurate then the debate then moves on to Jermall's value and other options I guess.

You know full well that the comparison with Mikey vs Vargas ain't really a meaningful one though, man. Not saying Jermall is worth more or less, merely that just cos one fight or fighter is considered worth a particular sum it doesn't follow that others will be too, name value, nationality, perceived demand and, sure, titles too all come into play when making that calculation.

And unfortunately Jermall's bargaining strength ain't really helped by his possession of the WBC title since it's been rendered effectively worthless by all this franchise champ bullchit... I mean it doesn't even grant you a shot at the money guy even though it does carry the burden of mandatory defenses... you gotta be asking why anyone would even want it in those circumstances. The WBC screwed Jermall (and Devin) big time with that one.

They are also screwing boxing fans and attempting to screw the laws of logic and rational thought.

Sulaiman in a recent interview: "Devin Haney is the WBC lightweight champion."

Followed quickly by: "Yes, Loma can still become undisputed lightweight champion by defeating the winner of the IBF title fight. Undisputed means he will be the only champion in that division."

[Citizen Koba]

They are also screwing boxing fans and attempting to screw the laws of logic and rational thought.

Sulaiman in a recent interview: "Devin Haney is the WBC lightweight champion."

Followed quickly by: "Yes, Loma can still become undisputed lightweight champion by defeating the winner of the IBF title fight. Undisputed means he will be the only champion in that division."

As ever the laws of rationality distort around large sums of money like light around a singularity, man. An outstanding example of Orwellian doublethink from Mauricio here.

[W1LL]

Only $7m?! Here we go with another slave contract. Probably dwarfs any of Charlo's previous paydays.

[kafkod]

As ever the laws of rationality distort around large sums of money like light around a singularity, man. An outstanding example of Orwellian doublethink from Mauricio here.

Absolutely. What Sulaiman did in that interview was conflate "WBC champion" and "WBC representative" in such a way as to make them mean the same thing in one sentence and 2 different things in another.

He then quickly ended the interview before he could be asked the obvious question .. how would Loma be the only champion in the lightweight division if Devin Haney is the WBC lightweight champion?