AJ fought like Wlad. The irony!

[bojangles1987]

That didn't remind me of Wlad at all. Wlad wasn't flat-footed but he didn't dance. He kept the jab out, let the hard ones go when he felt comfortable, and clinched if he ever felt uncomfortable with the range. Joshua danced and moved too much to be like Wlad and didn't use his job like Wlad.

[kafkod]

Thraxox is just a baby, he isn't ready for the legendary Marchegiano.


That wasn't difficult ya dumbass *****. Now, I reckon, could be wrong 'cause I'm so damn dumb as hell, but my dumbass sure do reckon your dumbass owes me an explanation.

You too kafkod

I don't get it .. what do you want me to explain?

[kafkod]

Yes, so ******, now explain how he was protecting Wilder by throwing him under the bus.

Y'all are ****ing morons. Wilder called Wlad out. Wlad said Wilder needs more fights. Finkel worked for both men. Finkel repeated Wlad. Finkle is protecting Wilder doe

You morons don't ever have anything to say but "You don't agree, you is ******" like that says anything to me other than you're an insecure little *****.

That's a pile of bullshit ... part of the false narrative concocted by PBC shills and Wilder fanboys to excuse his failure to make any attempt to unify with other belt holder's during his 5 year reign as WBC champion.

Finkel had worked with K2 on the US side of Wlad's business, but that doesn't mean he was working for Wlad or speaking on Wlad's behalf when he made that, "Deontay is still a baby statement"

He was speaking as Wilder's manager, ruling out a fight that he knew Wilder had little to no chance of winning.

[Marchegiano]

That's a pile of bullshit ... part of the false narrative concocted by PBC shills and Wilder fanboys to excuse his failure to make any attempt to unify with other belt holder's during his 5 year reign as WBC champion.

Finkel had worked with K2 on the US side of Wlad's business, but that doesn't mean he was working for Wlad or speaking on Wlad's behalf when he made that, "Deontay is still a baby statement"

He was speaking as Wilder's manager, ruling out a fight that he knew Wilder had little to no chance of winning.

I'm not sure which part you called bull****. Wilder talked about Wlad before Wlad ever mentioned Wilder.

It doesn't mean he wasn't either.

You have a man who worked for both and only threw one under a bus.

You don't think Shelly could have preserved Wilder's integrity while swerving the Wlad fight if that was his goal?

See real ****ing ****** for a guy whose job is to put over and make grandeur to say something that purposefully diminishes his status.

Only thing that makes that makes sense is dude worked for both and Wlad made 10s of millions while Wilder was luck to see a few 100K

[kafkod]

I'm not sure which part you called bull****. Wilder talked about Wlad before Wlad ever mentioned Wilder.

It doesn't mean he wasn't either.

You have a man who worked for both and only threw one under a bus.

You don't think Shelly could have preserved Wilder's integrity while swerving the Wlad fight if that was his goal?

See real ****ing ****** for a guy whose job is to put over and make grandeur to say something that purposefully diminishes his status.

Only thing that makes that makes sense is dude worked for both and Wlad made 10s of millions while Wilder was luck to see a few 100K

You're talking like a police officer who catches somebody in the act of committing a crime, but doesn't arrest them because he can't see any motive they might have for doing it!

I can easily switch that round on you and ask what possible motive Wlad might have had for not wanting to unify with Wilder as soon as possible?

He was pushing 40, in the twilight of his career, with unwanted mandos looming and desperate to achieve his dream of unifying the division before time ran out. Wilder's WBC belt was the only one he needed. You seriously think he would tell Finkel .. "I don't want to fight Deontay until he's ready for me"?

Yes, he said Wilder needed more fights - which was true - but whose problem was that, Wlad's or Wilder's?

Finkel was not working for Wlad when he ruled out Wilder trying to unify the division. He wasn't Wlad's manager or promoter. How much of Wlad's 10s of millions do you think Shirley got his grubby hands on for occasionally acting as Wlad's US business agent .. a role which would probably have ended when Tom Loeffler took over as CEO of K2 in the US?

[Blond Beast]

What I am stating? Wladimir Kiltschko was more efficient and better at fighting a 'Bigman' styled fight and using his attributes against smaller fighters. Joshua seems challenged when using his own attributes, nothing is flowing and you can see him thinking 'Move left, Move back, Throw a punch, Move' etc Joshua got the job done, but I just don't think it was a great performance 'Joshua fought a Olympic styled fight, 'Where he was just hitting the target to score points, Instead of hitting through target'.

Kiltschko from range, would break guys down with his jab alone then slowly bring in the right hand 'It was alarming as to how well Ruiz Junior was unaffected by Joshua's offense'.

I am still backing Joshua to come out on top against all the other heavyweights, and I am aware that Joshua is still in a rebuilding process 'I don't think he is the same fighter, that he was prior to Ruiz Junior'

Some interviews, Paulie Malignaggi & Teddy Atlas kind of hit on afew things here.

Good post. I think u nailed it with ur comment on Wlad using his physical attributes i.e. height, reach to better degree than Joshua. My biggest knock on Joshua was that he seemed to bend at the waist with wide stance, and bring himself down to the level of his opponents. He was focused but his chin was out there. I also feel that his huge feet look like they are cumbersome to pick up and down as far as boxing style. He can cover sum big ground on the edge of the ring while he’s not engaged moving left and right like you said. This is running down the clock tactic. It’s not like there was anything coming at him when he was doing most of his movement. I wasent impressed with his performance either like you, but we know the most important thing for him was to win, look good another time. I think he will keep his more cautious style. It might be his best bet to win also. I think Wilder will have less of a chance to get to him now, but also he has less of a chance to get to Wilder. Which on paper is what u want with a puncher like Wilder..I think Fury is good enough to outbox anyone though he may have to get off the floor to do it, and we saw how that can end up. Vitali beats them all in my opinion.

[QueensburyRules]

That didn't remind me of Wlad at all.

- -Wlad never a tattooed prison thug holding a single TBA belt either.