AJ fought like Wlad. The irony!

[kafkod]

When I read about Deontay Wilder dissing and mocking AJ for fighting like Wlad Klitschko in the Ruiz rematch, the first thought I had was ... how ironic that is! Considering how Wilder openly ducked unifying the HW crown with Wlad after winning the WBC title, which is why Tyson Fury was the man who wound up ending the Klitschko era later that year.

Hatman makes the same point in this video, and he also makes another point I've made multiple times in comments here, which is that some guys wouldn't need to stay away from Wilder's right hand for 12 rounds if he fought them. They could KO him just quickly as he could KO them, if they caught him clean!

[deathofaclown]

Hatman makes the same point in this video, and he also makes another point I've made multiple times in comments here, which is that some guys wouldn't need to stay away from Wilder's right hand for 12 rounds if he fought them. They could KO him just quickly as he could KO them, if they caught him clean!

It’s something i’ve said many times:

It barely matters who’s the bigger puncher, if both fighters have the power to stop each other anyway.

Of course Wilder is a bigger puncher than AJ, but what would it matter if AJ or any other fighter got to him first?

You can only use the theory of “avoiding Wilder’s right hand for 12 rounds” if you completely ignore the fact there’s someone else fighting back, not just defending for 12 rounds and not allowed to throw punches.

That said, i’ve still always tipped Wilder to beat AJ. But the point still stands anyway.

That’s also why i think Fury will try to stop him, or put it on him more in the next fight. And AJ would have to try and stop Wilder if they fought.

It is hard to go 12 rounds with Wilder and not get hit and stopped, but it doesn’t mean you HAVE to go 12 rounds to get a win ..

[The Big Dunn]

I've seen a ton of posters criticize AJ for how he fought against Ruiz in the 2nd fight. I think that is crazy.

I'm not worried about AJ fighting like Wlad. I am worried about him hiding in Europe like Wlad.

Otherwise, I agree that Wilder has some vulnerabilities that any top HWT should be able to take advantage of if they can survive his power.

[Marchegiano]

I did keep saying Joshua's going to do his best rendition of Wlad.


He's a track fighter, it's what you do with a guy who can't fight circular worth a piss. Limiting the punches down to one-two maybe a hook here or there, also just what you do with a guy who has posture issues.

A lot of what Joshua does poorly Wlad did poorly and a lot of what would cover up his decifits is what Wlad did to cover his own.

Fast feet are still kryptonite for Joshua. Doing his best version of Wlad doesn't help him fight Wilder or Fury.

Wlad fought using amatuer techniques. That's why his style is used to mitigate the bad habits of a fighter. Wlad and Joshua look different but share the same habits like Wilder and Marciano do. Makes sense, just like Wilder and Marciano, for Joshua to mimic what was successful before him. Also, I don't know of any other form that'd help Joshua hide his flaws better. It's very basic because it's meant to get ams ready for pros. Real pro tech licks it everytime.




It is literally a beginner's form.

[Marchegiano]

Also, please explain to me how Shelly throwing Wilder under the buss and making him look bad protects Wilder and not Wlad.

[kafkod]

It’s something i’ve said many times:

It barely matters who’s the bigger puncher, if both fighters have the power to stop each other anyway.

Of course Wilder is a bigger puncher than AJ, but what would it matter if AJ or any other fighter got to him first?

You can only use the theory of “avoiding Wilder’s right hand for 12 rounds” if you completely ignore the fact there’s someone else fighting back, not just defending for 12 rounds and not allowed to throw punches.

That said, i’ve still always tipped Wilder to beat AJ. But the point still stands anyway.

That’s also why i think Fury will try to stop him, or put it on him more in the next fight. And AJ would have to try and stop Wilder if they fought.

It is hard to go 12 rounds with Wilder and not get hit and stopped, but it doesn’t mean you HAVE to go 12 rounds to get a win ..

Many Wilder fans don't know enough about boxing to see past the hype and realise that he can get KTFO too.

[kafkod]

I've seen a ton of posters criticize AJ for how he fought against Ruiz in the 2nd fight. I think that is crazy.

I'm not worried about AJ fighting like Wlad. I am worried about him hiding in Europe like Wlad.

Otherwise, I agree that Wilder has some vulnerabilities that any top HWT should be able to take advantage of if they can survive his power.

???

His last 2 fights were on the road.

[PRINCEKOOL]

I don't think he fought like Wladimir Kiltschko at all 'Kiltschko would of stopped Ruiz Junior in the later rounds'

Anthony Joshua fought a Olympic styled point scoring fight, where he was playing a semi-violent game of tick.

[kafkod]

I did keep saying Joshua's going to do his best rendition of Wlad.


He's a track fighter, it's what you do with a guy who can't fight circular worth a piss. Limiting the punches down to one-two maybe a hook here or there, also just what you do with a guy who has posture issues.

A lot of what Joshua does poorly Wlad did poorly and a lot of what would cover up his decifits is what Wlad did to cover his own.

Fast feet are still kryptonite for Joshua. Doing his best version of Wlad doesn't help him fight Wilder or Fury.

Wlad fought using amatuer techniques. That's why his style is used to mitigate the bad habits of a fighter. Wlad and Joshua look different but share the same habits like Wilder and Marciano do. Makes sense, just like Wilder and Marciano, for Joshua to mimic what was successful before him. Also, I don't know of any other form that'd help Joshua hide his flaws better. It's very basic because it's meant to get ams ready for pros. Real pro tech licks it everytime.




It is literally a beginner's form.

It's known as being adaptable, able to alter your style and approach to suit the opponent.

There is actually no difference between amateur and pro technique. The difference is one of tactics and style, rather than technique. Wlad's style and approach depended on control of range, low punch output to avoid giving the opponent openings, and taking as long as he needed to take to gradually break them down to the point where he felt safe opening up and letting his punches go.

Wlad's style post Manny Steward was actually the antithesis of how he fought as an amateur and in the first phase of his pro career.

Also, please explain to me how Shelly throwing Wilder under the buss and making him look bad protects Wilder and not Wlad.

Other than going ahead with the fight, excuses for not doing so were the only option Finkel had.

Finkel was not Wlad's manager, he was Wilder's. So what reason could he possibly have had for throwing Wilder under the bus to protect Wlad?

[DreamFighter]

no AJ didnt fight like wlad. Fighting like Wlad would be not showing up to get KOed again, letting his big brother face him.