AJ fought like Wlad. The irony!

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  • REDEEMER
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    #11
    Originally posted by Marchegiano
    I did keep saying Joshua's going to do his best rendition of Wlad.


    He's a track fighter, it's what you do with a guy who can't fight circular worth a piss. Limiting the punches down to one-two maybe a hook here or there, also just what you do with a guy who has posture issues.

    A lot of what Joshua does poorly Wlad did poorly and a lot of what would cover up his decifits is what Wlad did to cover his own.

    Fast feet are still kryptonite for Joshua. Doing his best version of Wlad doesn't help him fight Wilder or Fury.

    Wlad fought using amatuer techniques. That's why his style is used to mitigate the bad habits of a fighter. Wlad and Joshua look different but share the same habits like Wilder and Marciano do. Makes sense, just like Wilder and Marciano, for Joshua to mimic what was successful before him. Also, I don't know of any other form that'd help Joshua hide his flaws better. It's very basic because it's meant to get ams ready for pros. Real pro tech licks it everytime.




    It is literally a beginner's form.
    I usually try to stay away from your posts but they are so outlandish I have to take notice at times at times and skim very fast they are so off , Wlad fought with amateur techniques ? That’s maybe the dumbest thing I’ve seen from even you the entire post is a disaster not worth going over , wow. Ha

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      #12
      Originally posted by kafkod
      Other than going ahead with the fight, excuses for not doing so were the only option Finkel had.

      Finkel was not Wlad's manager, he was Wilder's. So what reason could he possibly have had for throwing Wilder under the bus to protect Wlad?
      Yeah he's trying to spin it when its obvious that Finkel didn't think Wilder had any chance against Wlad and if the stories of their sparring sessions are true then I can't blame him. It's only an issue when Wilder fans try to deny it and come back with stuff like "You think Wlad could have stayed away from Wilder's right hand for 12 rounds"

      .....Protect Wlad from Wilder by throwing Wilder under the bus and saying he isn't ready ...... NSB has the best spin doctors.

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        #13
        Originally posted by REDEEMER
        I usually try to stay away from your posts but they are so outlandish I have to take notice at times at times and skim very fast they are so off , Wlad fought with amateur techniques ? That’s maybe the dumbest thing I’ve seen from even you the entire post is a disaster not worth going over , wow. Ha
        Emanuel Steward never hide he kept Wlad on basic techniques.

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          #14
          Originally posted by kafkod
          It's known as being adaptable, able to alter your style and approach to suit the opponent.

          There is actually no difference between amateur and pro technique. The difference is one of tactics and style, rather than technique. Wlad's style and approach depended on control of range, low punch output to avoid giving the opponent openings, and taking as long as he needed to take to gradually break them down to the point where he felt safe opening up and letting his punches go.

          Wlad's style post Manny Steward was actually the antithesis of how he fought as an amateur and in the first phase of his pro career.



          Other than going ahead with the fight, excuses for not doing so were the only option Finkel had.

          Finkel was not Wlad's manager, he was Wilder's. So what reason could he possibly have had for throwing Wilder under the bus to protect Wlad?
          Like told Redeemer, those are Manny's words so I dunno what to tell you. I hold Steward in very high regard, listening to him is how I found out about Wilder and Fury actually. If he says they're amatuer, that's what they are. You don't get any higher expert thany Manny.

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          No one said Finkel was Wlad's manager. Finkel was never Wlad's manager, he's Wlad's advisor.

          And yes, he was Wlad's advisor at the time. It's reported on our own website.

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            #15
            Originally posted by kafkod
            ???

            His last 2 fights were on the road.
            Curiously this came up under my notifications. I don't see any relevance to me though. This site is ****ing up

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            • kafkod
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              #16
              Originally posted by Marchegiano
              Like told Redeemer, those are Manny's words so I dunno what to tell you. I hold Steward in very high regard, listening to him is how I found out about Wilder and Fury actually. If he says they're amatuer, that's what they are. You don't get any higher expert thany Manny.

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              No one said Finkel was Wlad's manager. Finkel was never Wlad's manager, he's Wlad's advisor.

              And yes, he was Wlad's advisor at the time. It's reported on our own website.
              Manny had nothing but praise for Fury. Wlad fought the way Manny trained him to fight.

              I believe Finkel was Wlad's business manager in the US, but his main manager and advisor from the start of his career was Bernd Boente.
              Last edited by kafkod; 12-17-2019, 07:54 PM.

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              • kafkod
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                #17
                Originally posted by Marchegiano
                Curiously this came up under my notifications. I don't see any relevance to me though. This site is ****ing up
                No, it was me who fucked up by mistakenly quoting you in a reply to some-one else. I edited the post and deleted your comment from it.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by DreamFighter
                  no AJ didnt fight like wlad. Fighting like Wlad would be not showing up to get KOed again, letting his big brother face him.
                  Sorry , but I was under the impression , that’s exactly what AJ did : he showed up to not get ko’d
                  He’s never fought that way before , one-two clinch or run
                  And what happened the last time they fought ; he got ko’d
                  I believe that is his reasoning to fight that way

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                    I'm not worried about AJ fighting like Wlad. I am worried about him hiding in Europe like Wlad.
                    Joshua’s last fight in the uk was back in 2018. His last two fights were in America and Saudi Arabia.

                    Therefore I don’t understand your concern. There is more logic to say your worried wilder would hide in America. His last fight outside America was maybe 20 odd fights ago? (I haven’t checked so feel free to correct me if I’m wrong)

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
                      I don't think he fought like Wladimir Kiltschko at all 'Kiltschko would of stopped Ruiz Junior in the later rounds'

                      Anthony Joshua fought a Olympic styled point scoring fight, where he was playing a semi-violent game of tick.
                      I’m a Wlad fan, though he could often be frustrating to watch. The thing is though, u have to imagine Wlad going through what AJ did in the first fight then imagine the immediate rematch. I could imagine Wlad not even throwing a right hand for the first four rounds. Course I could also see him trying to land heavier and more often late like you said.

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