Noticing a disturbing trend with Crawford

[Boxing Goat]

where would you rank him and what would you use to compare him with Marciano?

Are you really asking that?

Oh idk, beating a top 100 ranked heavyweight maybe? The dude has had one fight there vs. a bum ffs.

Marciano was an undefeated legend with 7 title fight wins and they were all ko's but one. He also destroyed the legend Joe Louis from the previous generation.

There's no comparison and most likely never will be.

[megh50]

Are you really asking that?

Oh idk, beating a top 100 ranked heavyweight maybe? The dude has had one fight there vs. a bum ffs.

Marciano was an undefeated legend with 7 title fight wins and they were all ko's but one. He also destroyed the legend Joe Louis from the previous generation.

There's no comparison and most likely never will be.

Rocky fought two fighters with undefeated records throughout his 49 fight career, all of the others had at least 11 losses on average when he fought them. Some significantly more. They would be regarded as huge cans today. Does that make a difference in your assessment of him? It does in my mind. Of his last thirteen fights, most of those guys were good but well faded, with an average of 13 losses before he fought them. Usyk has fought 5 fighters with no losses and the average losses of his opponents when he fought them was 1. He is also about the same weight as Marciano, but much taller. Usyk became champion much sooner than Marciano, fought better opposition and is now campaigning as a super heavy by Marciano standards. If you remove the hype around Marciano and let the stats speak, you will get a picture of what he accomplished. This is no knock on the potential of the guy, as he beat everyone put in front of him, but those fighters were either faded or not very good. Joe Louis was a shell of himself and Walcott, Charles and Moore were definitely worse for wear having between 50 and 149 fights when they fought him.

[_original_]

I sorta agree. And he's his biggest defender for his (weak) case as the P4P #1. lol I don't even remember Floyd being this defensive, maybe because Floyd actually was unanimously #1, but Bud is getting annoying crapping on Canelo and Loma to big himself up.

[Combat Talk Radio]

I sorta agree. And he's his biggest defender for his (weak) case as the P4P #1. lol I don't even remember Floyd being this defensive, maybe because Floyd actually was unanimously #1, but Bud is getting annoying crapping on Canelo and Loma to big himself up.

Floyd was hella defensive (Brian Kenny), but he had a right to be. His arguments were valid, every one of them. At the time he already had a Hall of Fame list of people he had beaten.

Crawford's argument is that he beat Jeff Horn.

[tjones1989]

Y'all are hating on crawford but love the hypejob loma. You guys are crazy man.

[_original_]

Floyd was hella defensive (Brian Kenny), but he had a right to be. His arguments were valid, every one of them. At the time he already had a Hall of Fame list of people he had beaten.

Crawford's argument is that he beat Jeff Horn.

Agree and agree. Floyd wasn't getting the love but everybody recognized he was by far the best boxer on the planet with the resume to back it up.


Crawford comes across as a bit insecure having to put down Canelo and Loma to big himself up as #1. Recently he's ridiculously claiming he's the #1 WW when Spence has two belts and a better WW resume. LOL

[HewJohnson]

I'm noticing a disturbing trend with Crawford. He doesn't seem to want to acknowledge anything negative and is starting to make excuses. Andre Ward pointed out the same thing with Kovalev. Loma admits when he gets hurt, and all of the greats do. Crawford denied the knockdown against Egis, refused to acknowledge that he hit Khan low, and to this day, diminishes that Gamboa hurt him. Not sure how he continues to maintain this in the light of incontrovertible video evidence. It's a bad sign for me.

He’s not a humble person.
He’s very arrogant and ******.
It’s not a good star quality if you’re trying to push PPV sales...

[HewJohnson]

I sorta agree. And he's his biggest defender for his (weak) case as the P4P #1. lol I don't even remember Floyd being this defensive, maybe because Floyd actually was unanimously #1, but Bud is getting annoying crapping on Canelo and Loma to big himself up.

He craps on everybody.
He tries to downplay Loma, Canelo, Pac, etc.

I like Crawford but that dude has a horrible attitude for somebody who hasn’t even fought top opposition.

[Boxing Goat]

Rocky fought two fighters with undefeated records throughout his 49 fight career, all of the others had at least 11 losses on average when he fought them. Some significantly more. They would be regarded as huge cans today. Does that make a difference in your assessment of him? It does in my mind. Of his last thirteen fights, most of those guys were good but well faded, with an average of 13 losses before he fought them. Usyk has fought 5 fighters with no losses and the average losses of his opponents when he fought them was 1. He is also about the same weight as Marciano, but much taller. Usyk became champion much sooner than Marciano, fought better opposition and is now campaigning as a super heavy by Marciano standards. If you remove the hype around Marciano and let the stats speak, you will get a picture of what he accomplished. This is no knock on the potential of the guy, as he beat everyone put in front of him, but those fighters were either faded or not very good. Joe Louis was a shell of himself and Walcott, Charles and Moore were definitely worse for wear having between 50 and 149 fights when they fought him.

Read this SLOW...….so you process it.

Usyk has one heavyweight fight against a nobody!

He doesn't belong in the top 100 list of all time heavyweights yet as he has basically done NOTHING!

If you want to rank him @ CW, then go ahead. I also rank him in the top 3 all time in that division. It's apples and oranges.

As far as Marciano goes, things were obviously a lot different with some guys fighting monthly back then but he still beat the top contenders over and over again while he was the champ and that's all a champion could do.

If you want to talk about head to head matchups, that's a totally different subject.

I just think you are confused here.