crawford is the 5th best ww right now...

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You obviously haven’t seen the fight. Thurman was completely outclassed by Pac. It was one of Pac’s easiest fights. He even took the middle rounds off and closed him in the last 3.

Anybody who actually WATCHES BOXING AND WATCHED that fight knows that.

Come back and post after you watch the Thurman Pac fight bud.

It was close. Pacquiao clearly won the first half of the fight, thurman clearly started outlanding pacquiao who started to gas and won the second half.

I had it 6 rounds to 6, with the knockdown edging it for pacquiao.

[THC]

considering the quality of performance and opponents

right behind
pac
spence
porter
thurman

I think Crawford beats them all.

Prior to his accident, I thought Spence had the best chance to beat Bud.

Anyway, our opinions are worth crap until they actually fight.

[Hung Low]

Porter went life and death with Ugas. Bud taps that ass.

[Arj Guy]

Josesito is not better than Kavaliauskas, he didn’t hurt Crawford the way Thurman was hurt and Thurman-Lopez was a draw on one judges card. Crawford would never fight an even fight with Josesito Lopez. Thurman wouldn’t have either prior to his surgeries and time off. He’s shot.

. Thurman Lopez wasn’t close to a draw in reality, Lopez won 1 maybe 2 rounds. So I guess Crawford is shot then also at least Thurman didn’t go down. And to say Thurman was outclassed by Pac isn’t really accurate, he was for the first 5 rounds but it ended being pretty close you could legitimately give Thurman 6 rounds

[RuleOfTheSpear]

Pacman and Spence are about equal level like months ago.

After the crash, I give the edge to Pacman.

Welterweight rankings right now:

#1 Pacman
#2 Errol Spence
#3 Crawford

[RuleOfTheSpear]

It was close. Pacquiao clearly won the first half of the fight, thurman clearly started outlanding pacquiao who started to gas and won the second half.

I had it 6 rounds to 6, with the knockdown edging it for pacquiao.

You gave the 10th round to Thurman?

Dude almost died in round 10.

The first half of the fight goes to Pacman with the 10-8 score in round 1. The second half of the fight goes to Thurman, with the exception of round 10.

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You gave the 10th round to Thurman?

Dude almost died in round 10.

The first half of the fight goes to Pacman with the 10-8 score in round 1. The second half of the fight goes to Thurman, with the exception of round 10.

I didn't say I gave thurman the 10th round. I said he won the second half of the fight.

Pacquiao didn't win every round from 1-6. I would have to watch it again to tell you which ones but I don't see why I have to. Pacquiao clearly won the fight with the knockdown.

[Articulateboxin]

I think you're being unfairly harsh on Crawford here. While I know Khan is a total meme at this point, Crawford was really the first boxer to actually outbox him. Khan has almost always been ahead on points when it's came to the inevitable, devastating end. I don't think that was the case against Crawford. Having said that, while I feel he beats Spence (only for a year or two more though) on paper, I can understand why some people feel he's not really done enough to be considered top dog. Spence has at least proven himself against established names at WW.

I also feel the need to chip on the Pac vs Thurman fight. I think I must have watched a different fight, I thought Thurman actually looked quite good in round 1, until he got caught going backwards in a straight line and actually fought very well beyond round 6 and with the exception of round 10. I had it 7-5 to pac with a knockdown, so yes he won clearly but it wasn't some kind of destruction. Thurman gave a good account of himself mid to late rounds as far as I was concerned.

[Unified18]

Sir do you really think Thurman is that same beast that pummeled Guerrero? I was watching the Charlo/Harrison special, dude(Thurman) was saying he gonna be out for months because of his hand surgery out of shape with a pot belly.

So Thurman is a shot fighter because of that 1 round against Josesito? Don't forget something similar happened against the pre injured version of Thurman against a faded Luis Collazo before, so its not like that was a first for Keith. Thurman for some reason, is somewhat prone to getting caught by a clean punch from much lesser fighters, maybe its over confidence or a lack of focus, but either way, he didn't showed the same carelessness against Porter and Garcia when he beat them, both of whom were clearly higher quality fighters compare to either mean machine or Lopez.

BTW, other than that round he was caught, Thurman won what should have been a very, clear UD. Most viewers had Keith winning at least 9 rounds, the judge who scored the bout a draw was either incompetent or corrupt, dont believe me, check the GDT of that fight on this forum, many posters here was rightly criticizing that judge for his awful scorecard.

[aboutfkntime]

Crawford
Spence
Porter
Pacquiao
Thurman

and the only two guys who can change that pecking order are Pacquiao/Spence

Manny's best chance of beating one of the top 3, could be Spence

not because of the accident, and I think Spence is legit... but because of style

Porter is a tough fight for Pac, like the Horn fight... and Crawford is a real bad style... Spence is a little inbetween, he is a better matchup... Pac would not see as much constant pressure from Spence like he would from Porter, who is a dog... it could suit his game better and give him more opportunities, allow him to fight at a slower pace and pick his spots/shots

a shootout would suit Pac more than a dogfight at this point

I would definitely favor Spence at this stage... but like with Thurman, returning from injury/inactivity could be the right time for Pac to take that fight