crawford is the 5th best ww right now...

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  • Chrismart
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    #51
    Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer
    Spence barely beat Porter.
    Crawford has never fought anybody top 5.

    We don`t know yet if they are really the best.
    Just my opinion.
    Manny could be ranked over Crawford at WW no doubt, but if i had to pick who would come out on top of a round robin' tournament, it would be Spence and Crawford.

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    • STREET CLEANER
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      #52
      Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
      Josesito is not better than Kavaliauskas, he didn’t hurt Crawford the way Thurman was hurt and Thurman-Lopez was a draw on one judges card. Crawford would never fight an even fight with Josesito Lopez. Thurman wouldn’t have either prior to his surgeries and time off. He’s shot.
      Josesito is a more proven fighter.

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      • STREET CLEANER
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        #53
        Right now the path of least resistance for Crawford from the top guys would be Thurman.

        It looks like his heart is not into it no more and his chin is dented. It won't be easy because Thurman has good legs and Crawford looks more and more like a right hand can land consistently no matter what side he switches.

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        • emceetns
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          #54
          Originally posted by pasawayako
          If a journeyman can knock down crawford then he should stay away from pac....
          If Manny Pacquiao felt like you do then the fight would have been made while they were both with Top Rank. Freddie Roach even admitted that Crawford would be a bad matchup for an older Pacman. Also, Crawford's opponent was rated #8 in the Ring Magazine top-10 last year so he is far from a journeyman.

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          • emceetns
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            #55
            Originally posted by Arj Guy
            On resume that is correct. H2H you can argue otherwise
            Exactly. Two totally different conversations.

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            • pasawayako
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              #56
              Originally posted by emceetns
              If Manny Pacquiao felt like you do then the fight would have been made while they were both with Top Rank. Freddie Roach even admitted that Crawford would be a bad matchup for an older Pacman. Also, Crawford's opponent was rated #8 in the Ring Magazine top-10 last year so he is far from a journeyman.
              Yea kav ia a journeyman and pac was begging for the craqford fight but arum don't want to make it happen that's why pac gpt tired of chasing crawford and go to PBC...

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              • emceetns
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                #57
                Originally posted by pasawayako
                Yea kav ia a journeyman and pac was begging for the craqford fight but arum don't want to make it happen that's why pac gpt tired of chasing crawford and go to PBC...
                Ok, here is the Ring magazine top 10 from 2018, how many of these guys would you consider to be journeymen?
                Errol Spence
                Terence Crawford
                Keith Thurman
                Shawn Porter
                Manny Pacquiao
                Danny (Swift) Garcia
                Egidijus Kavaliauskas
                Yordenis Ugas
                Jeff Horn
                Jessie Vargas
                Last edited by emceetns; 12-19-2019, 11:16 AM.

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                • Arj Guy
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer
                  Spence barely beat Porter.
                  Crawford has never fought anybody top 5.

                  We don`t know yet if they are really the best.
                  This right here. The narrative that Crawford and Spence are head and shoulders above the rest of the division isn’t really based on reality when you look at how close Spence Porter was and the fact that Crawford hasn’t fought a top 5 opponent yet. They all need to fight each other

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                  • rors_mc
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                    #59
                    How can anyone have Crawford as #1 welterweight ?!?!?!?! where is the logic in this decision ?? he hasn't fought anyone at WW ! how can you rank him ahead of Pac , Spence , Thurman , porter or even Danny Garcia ??? Crawford aint **** until he fights one of those guys ! i dont care what any of you think !

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by rors_mc
                      How can anyone have Crawford as #1 welterweight ?!?!?!?! where is the logic in this decision ?? he hasn't fought anyone at WW ! how can you rank him ahead of Pac , Spence , Thurman , porter or even Danny Garcia ??? Crawford aint **** until he fights one of those guys ! i dont care what any of you think !
                      My thoughts exactly and I'm glad more people are seeing this. Crawford has the ultimate spinmaster Arum working his voodoo. Crawford isn't a top WW and shouldn't be top 5 P4P until he faces somebody worth a damn.

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