Why you don't think AJ v Ruiz was a good fight

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  • Kezzer
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    #11
    I think you summed it up really well. The bit that your missing is that fans (in the case of Wilder , even the rival himself) there is a sense of jealousy which kicks in also. Many respond to discredit when they would have liked to have seen their own superstar perform in that way. Often that’s a subconscious thing too.

    It’s not unique to boxing to be fair, you often see it in F1 with Hamilton at the moment for example - because he is winning whether his car is good, bad or indifferent.

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    • JakeTheBoxer
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      #12
      High class fights are always boring.

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      • 4truth
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        #13
        Originally posted by jaketheboxer
        high class fights are always boring.
        what?!!!!!

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          #14
          Originally posted by 4truth
          what?!!!!!
          Yes. Look at Mayweather fights. Canelo fights . And so on.

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          • Nash out
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            #15
            Originally posted by Redd Foxx
            It was boring AF. AJ fought timid much of the time and when he did engage, he immediately backed off. It was like a Mayweather fight, without the high skill level. The only reason Floyd was at all interesting to watch was because he had dazzling skill. This fight was, "I touch you then I run for a bit. Then I do it again." Andy had no plan B.

            I'm not going to fault anyone but I will say it was awful to watch. I started shopping online after a few rounds of that shyt.
            All of this. I loved Mayweather fights because even in the rounds that were pretty dull, the skill level and ring IQ were just tremendous. Joshua put in a solid display against a snail with fast hands. It wasn't close to a masterclass. It was a good performance 7.5/10 against a man out of shape and completely ill-prepared to defend his titles.

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            • turnedup
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              #16
              Joshua should have taken a chance and tried to stop Ruiz..the guy was out of shape, wasn’t doing much that night and Joshua was satisfied with just going the distance after getting destroyed a few months ago.

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                #17
                Originally posted by The Gypsy Queen
                All of this. I loved Mayweather fights because even in the rounds that were pretty dull, the skill level and ring IQ were just tremendous. Joshua put in a solid display against a snail with fast hands. It wasn't close to a masterclass. It was a good performance 7.5/10 against a man out of shape and completely ill-prepared to defend his titles.
                Comparing skill level between weights is tricky.

                Joshua is 6'6 and 240 pounds. He's not going to move like a scaled up welterweight.

                But for a heavyweight I thought it was a very high skill level and exceptional athletic ability. How many times have you seen a big Heavyweight move so well in the twelfth round? There's can't have been many?

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by turnedup
                  Joshua should have taken a chance and tried to stop Ruiz..the guy was out of shape, wasn’t doing much that night and Joshua was satisfied with just going the distance after getting destroyed a few months ago.
                  But why? To satisfy you?

                  The aim is to win, and once he was a few rounds up there was no need to stop Ruiz. Anyone could see that Ruiz' only hope was if Joshua did exactly what you've just said.

                  The gap between them was so significant that Joshua probably could have followed up on some of his good shots and gone for a stoppage, but he also could have been clipped in return by a guy who has incredible punch resilience.

                  The purpose for stopping a guy is to win the fight. Either because the scoring is in the balance or to negate the chance of him stopping you. In this fight it made more sense not to try stop him. Anyone would do exactly the same.

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                  • NoConcoms
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Toffee

                    Does getting outboxed for 6 rounds make Wilder's performance better or worse?
                    Better. Because he FINISHED Ortiz in EMPHATIC fashion. You neglected to mention that. Most likely because you're a crooked tooth nut hugger from the UK.

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                    • NoConcoms
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Toffee
                      But why? To satisfy you?
                      No ****tard. To make a statement. He got dropped, and QUIT against Ruiz the 1st time. You don't avenge a loss like that by boxing circles around a guy.

                      Lennox Lewis didn't do that against Rahman did he? But let's face the music here; While Lewis did rep the UK, the truth is; he grew up in, and learned how to box in my country; CANADA.

                      Lewis certainly didn't get his courage in the UK, that's for sure. You guys produce the biggest China-Chinned hypejobs in the sport. Joshua is no exception.

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