Comments Thread For: Arum: Joshua's Performance Against Ruiz 'Was A Joke'

[Marchegiano]

Joshua put Ruiz down and we see how that turned out lol

Wilder put Fury down with what everyone thought was a kill shot, and then Fury got up and won the rest of the round. That dude is not normal.

I'm not in the least bit worried about Tyson Fury taking up an aggressive posture that limits his ability to slip and move.

[doom_specialist]

I'm not in the least bit worried about Tyson Fury taking up an aggressive posture that limits his ability to slip and move.

Neither was Wilder, and then he got beat up worse than what was already happening. You might not be worried, but Joshua should be, if that opportunity presents itself one day. Like I said, one moment Ruiz was down, and then the next he's walking Joshua down dropping him over and over. It only takes one shot, and Fury is very good at throwing off-balance, sneaky shots. Plus he got up from 2 Wilder knockdowns. IMO that's worth noting when talking about him being in trouble.

[OnlytheTruth]

Yeah Marquez apparently beat Pacquiao more times than history remembers, but history hasn't changed, and Pacquiao still has the wins. See how that doesn't matter?

So Fury beats Wilder, and Joshua gets exposed by a 20-1 underdog. Joshua then beats that 20-1 underdog in arguably the most timid fashion he possibly could in a rematch, and he's #1 without facing Fury? Doesn't work that way bucko. Joshua is a bum until he gets the balls to fight The Gypsy King, or at least deal with his leftovers named Wilder

If you'd care to enlighten all of us on when Joshua could have fought Fury in the last 4 years??

So Joshua was exposed by a 20-1 underdog. He immediately re-matched and won. Convincingly.

Wilder was made to look like an amateur fool by someone who hadn't had a real fight in the near 3 years prior and was probably about 60% his 'best'.

I'd like to see actual comprehensive proof from either Wilder or Joshua that either one has been 'ducking' or 'dodging', which 100% you don't have. Consensus opinion will remember Wilder for turning down an actual £100m and history will remember Joshua for turning down an unconfirmed $50m.

Swings and roundabouts, kiddo.

[doom_specialist]

If you'd care to enlighten all of us on when Joshua could have fought Fury in the last 4 years??

So Joshua was exposed by a 20-1 underdog. He immediately re-matched and won. Convincingly.

Wilder was made to look like an amateur fool by someone who hadn't had a real fight in the near 3 years prior and was probably about 60% his 'best'.

I'd like to see actual comprehensive proof from either Wilder or Joshua that either one has been 'ducking' or 'dodging', which 100% you don't have. Consensus opinion will remember Wilder for turning down an actual £100m and history will remember Joshua for turning down an unconfirmed $50m.

Swings and roundabouts, kiddo.

You didn't explain why Joshua was #1, except for noting that he made it past a 20-1 underdog. Fury still beat Wilder and Joshua got exposed. You can't be #1 without beating the #1, and beating a 20-1 underdog certainly doesn't make you #2. Guess you hit the nail on the head with that last line lol

The last paragraph was totally emotional lmao. Where did that even come from? We were talking about the order of champions at HW. But since it matters so much to you, Eddie Hearn confirmed that the offer was legit and turned it down before they even had a meeting. His dad said 6 months later (on a tweet you can still read) that Joshua was smart for turning the offer down. You guys try over and over to rewrite history, but Joshua's boss and the boss' dad know that offer was real. As far as the DAZN deal, making a guy fight 3 other people before getting the guy he actually wants doesn't look brave. Hope you know that. I've always maintained that the money offered made the deal very attractive, and wouldn't have been bad for Wilder to take though. You guys never admit that Joshua should have taken the $50M. Instead, you all just say it never existed which is a shame.

And let's not even get started on Joshua ducking Fury. He doesn't even say that guy's name

[STREET CLEANER]

andy isnt a world class fighter. He never was and he never will be. He got his shot as a late replacement and won. He has no special abilities. He cant even cut off the ring. He did all he can do. Hes only fought low level competition. Had he not caught AJ with the "punch from the gods" in the first fight we probably wouldnt even be talking about Andy today. Andy is a non factor in the HW division.

I don't thinks so. He is not on the top of the HW division but he is a contender (if he ever can get in shape). His performance against Parker was a good one and he is much better than that last performance against AJ.

He was not lucky with a punch. He got knocked down, got up and stood in the pocket. There were three more knockdowns which he pressed for. It wasn't like he hit him will one punch and the fight was over.

[Oregonian]

Yeah Marquez apparently beat Pacquiao more times than history remembers, but history hasn't changed, and Pacquiao still has the wins. See how that doesn't matter?

So Fury beats Wilder, and Joshua gets exposed by a 20-1 underdog. Joshua then beats that 20-1 underdog in arguably the most timid fashion he possibly could in a rematch, and he's #1 without facing Fury? Doesn't work that way bucko. Joshua is a bum until he gets the balls to fight The Gypsy King, or at least deal with his leftovers named Wilder

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In that context, Mayweather beat PAC and history recorded that. The “great” PAC got beat easy.

While AJ got beat once by Ruiz that alone does not qualify him as a bum.
Many fights in history didn’t get made because of negotiations stalling and big egos plus promoters protecting their fighters.
Floyd-PAC, Gamboa-JuanMa, Tito-Oscar rematch, to name a few.
AJ and Wilder can still be made. There’s still time

[doom_specialist]

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In that context, Mayweather beat PAC and history recorded that. The “great” PAC got beat easy.

While AJ got beat once by Ruiz that alone does not qualify him as a bum.
Many fights in history didn’t get made because of negotiations stalling and big egos plus promoters protecting their fighters.
Floyd-PAC, Gamboa-JuanMa, Tito-Oscar rematch, to name a few.
AJ and Wilder can still be made. There’s still time

Just trolling an overzealous partisan bro. I have many posts defending Joshua's attack plan against Ruiz, and his loss to Ruiz. I think the guy is pretty good, but his fans can't admit any faults so I get free fun while I'm at work

EDIT: I do honestly think that the fight should have been made at the $50M deal though. The money was there, confirmed by Hearn, and he said no because Joshua felt more strongly about fighting at home. Fast forward about a year, and Joshua is in America getting exposed by Ruiz, while his fans are talking down Wilder for not taking a deal that would require that he fight 2-3 other guys first (for admittedly what looked like good money). I like both fighters, but I believe that there is an objective truth that one side does not like to tell, for no other reason than to be childish. So I just fight fire with fire lol

[OnlytheTruth]

You didn't explain why Joshua was #1, except for noting that he made it past a 20-1 underdog. Fury still beat Wilder and Joshua got exposed. You can't be #1 without beating the #1, and beating a 20-1 underdog certainly doesn't make you #2. Guess you hit the nail on the head with that last line lol

The last paragraph was totally emotional lmao. Where did that even come from? We were talking about the order of champions at HW. But since it matters so much to you, Eddie Hearn confirmed that the offer was legit and turned it down before they even had a meeting. His dad said 6 months later (on a tweet you can still read) that Joshua was smart for turning the offer down. You guys try over and over to rewrite history, but Joshua's boss and the boss' dad know that offer was real.

And let's not even get started on Joshua ducking Fury. He doesn't even say that guy's name

So, Joshua was #1 before his June loss then because Ruiz beat Joshua, he became #1, so Joshua beat Ruiz again, he goes back to #1. That's using your own definition.

Completely avoided that Wilder business acumen was twice as bad by turning down £100m. Nice work.

You can't even answer when in the last 4 years Joshua and Fury could have scheduled a bout. Look it up, when could they have fought!? You don't know. That's why you didn't 'get started'.

You disregard both sides of the story. You try and come across as smart but you spew up opinion and try to make it sound like fact. I feel like I'm educating a child right now.

[Lopez_Boxing]

I don't thinks so. He is not on the top of the HW division but he is a contender (if he ever can get in shape). His performance against Parker was a good one and he is much better than that last performance against AJ.

He was not lucky with a punch. He got knocked down, got up and stood in the pocket. There were three more knockdowns which he pressed for. It wasn't like he hit him will one punch and the fight was over.

He fought one decent opponent THREE YEARS ago and lost. Has done anything since.
Got called in as a late replacement. It wasnt a lucky punch, but it was a punch that a guy isnt going to land anytime he wants or anyone he wants. The guy has a 64% ko ratio against low level competition. That punch Changed history. Not ruizs skill.

[4truth]

I'm no particular fan of Joshua and definitely do not want to be associated in any way with the crazy group of Joshua superfans on this board (you know who you are ) but Joshua's performance, imo, was brilliant.