Comments Thread For: Arum: Joshua's Performance Against Ruiz 'Was A Joke'

[Zwikker]

It is true but trading with ruiz was the reason aj got beat fury would do the same thing so for him to call it a joke take a look at the Wallin vs fury fight that was a joke

[emceetns]

I have to agree with Arum on this one, Joshua trained like a mad man to lose the weight so he could run all night, you could tell he was so scared to get hit and grabbed straight away. He should never go anywhere near Fury or Wilder which we know he won't that's why he chose that bum Pulev, but yea the performance was catastrophic to say the least.

Yeah, so catastrophic that he pitched a near-shutout. Ruiz himself said "I know he's gonna try to box me around but that's actually better for me". Andy's weight and conditioning was catastrophic, and maybe if he had shed a few pounds, he would have been able to muster a sustained attack instead of practically begging AJ to stand and trade after he fell hopelessly behind

[Lopez_Boxing]

Andy has fast hands and a good chin. Continuous pressure in a fight does affect the other fighter. More than likely AJ would had won anyway but I wanted him to go into the next gear. Either he would had gutted it out or folded. He was cruising in the last fight

andy isnt a world class fighter. He never was and he never will be. He got his shot as a late replacement and won. He has no special abilities. He cant even cut off the ring. He did all he can do. Hes only fought low level competition. Had he not caught AJ with the "punch from the gods" in the first fight we probably wouldnt even be talking about Andy today. Andy is a non factor in the HW division.

[emceetns]

Arums right. People want to paint Ruiz like he is some top 5 monster, but he really is a top 20 bum. Beating Ruiz in ANY fashion isnt a great name on your resume. Running from him scared to engage is very telling where AJs heads at.

The fight was seen as 50-50 going in. Just look back at the predictions

[Lopez_Boxing]

The fight was seen as 50-50 going in. Just look back at the predictions

No. AJ was the betting favorite. And the reasons anyone didnt have faith in AJ were because of concerns about AJs heart, chin and where his head was at. Not Ruizs skill.

[emceetns]

Top Rank were happy to paint Ruiz as a monster, and shouting that they were the people who knew it first, before the rematch tho...

Hindsight is 20/20, so now everyone is dumping on Ruiz again, and making out Joshua is a joke for not KO'ing the obese man.

Joshua rightly trained to make use of all his physical advantages, and did the right thing as his gas tank looked ***** due to all that muscle... What was he meant to do? Alter the plan he'd just spent 12 weeks mastering, all cause Ruiz was heavier..!?

Everyone's a hater unless they're making money off you in boxing.

Exactly, Andy knew going in that AJ would "box him around" yet he looked like he trained for a sumo wrestling match instead.

[emceetns]

It is true but trading with ruiz was the reason aj got beat fury would do the same thing so for him to call it a joke take a look at the Wallin vs fury fight that was a joke

Exactly, and if AJ had lost trying to stand and trade then everyone on this board would be criticizing him for it.

[Marchegiano]

It was a good performance. The first time I saw AJ and thought he might be a threat to Wilder or Fury.

Just because Fury can move better than Joshua doesn't mean he can't get clipped. His last few fights he's won most rounds but also picked up the most damage. Joshua's not emotional like Wilder nor is he out of depth like Wallin. If Josh gets Fury down I reckon that's Fury done.

[doom_specialist]

It will always be remembered that Fury beat Wilder.

What does a loss do to Wilder if a loss moved AJ from 1 to 3?

Yeah Marquez apparently beat Pacquiao more times than history remembers, but history hasn't changed, and Pacquiao still has the wins. See how that doesn't matter?

So Fury beats Wilder, and Joshua gets exposed by a 20-1 underdog. Joshua then beats that 20-1 underdog in arguably the most timid fashion he possibly could in a rematch, and he's #1 without facing Fury? Doesn't work that way bucko. Joshua is a bum until he gets the balls to fight The Gypsy King, or at least deal with his leftovers named Wilder

[doom_specialist]

It was a good performance. The first time I saw AJ and thought he might be a threat to Wilder or Fury.

Just because Fury can move better than Joshua doesn't mean he can't get clipped. His last few fights he's won most rounds but also picked up the most damage. Joshua's not emotional like Wilder nor is he out of depth like Wallin. If Josh gets Fury down I reckon that's Fury done.

Joshua put Ruiz down and we see how that turned out lol

Wilder put Fury down with what everyone thought was a kill shot, and then Fury got up and won the rest of the round. That dude is not normal.