Head to head: Wilder vs Joshua

[jas]

wilder has a better chin

joshua sometimes fights too emotional as well , and vs wilder i can see him doing it

add to that the lack of head movement and wilder's unreal power i think we see a ko within 6 rounds

wilder via ko

[hugh grant]

Fury has given Josh the blueprint to beat wilder

[famicommander]

Fury has given Josh the blueprint to beat wilder

Fury is taller and faster with more range than Wilder.

Joshua is slower and shorter with less range.

[Yoseph]

I believe Wilder wins simply because of his power and ability to time people. Wilder fought Fury and he's a way better boxer than Joshua. He utilized feints, slipped punches and everything and still hit the canvas 2 times and was arguably should've lost that fight.

Any other ref would've waved it off.

Joshua does have power but not as much as Wilder. Also the way Joshua fought Ruiz won't work either because Wilder is longer and taller than Joshua as well. So he can't just jab and stay on the outside.

Even when he fought Ruiz that way he still was getting hit in exchanges. Also his chin is suspect as well.

We will see but I have Wilder winning in 7. He eventually times AJ and stops him. The problem is Wilder timing is supremely underrated. He's no the best boxing wise, but he does know how to hide his right hand with the jab and blind his opponents then end them with the right hand.

And his timing is getting better every fight as well. I have it 70/30 Wilder

[Lopez_Boxing]

skills and power will easily beat wilder , fury schooled him , slow Ortiz had him out on his feet.
Joshua will time him and knock him on his ass and he will stay down.
All wilder has to do is sign for the fight but he didn’t want the fight

***AJ fanatic alert***

[Lopez_Boxing]

Fury has given Josh the blueprint to beat wilder

Lmao amd what does fury do that AJ can mimic?

Besides getting laid on your ass of course?

[Toffee]

Puncher vs Boxer/puncher.

Boxer/puncher will always be favourite. People are getting carried away by the "opponent needs to be perfect for 12 rounds, Wilder only needs to be perfect for a second". That applies to guys with limited power like Fury. Wilder isn't taking Joshua's shots for 12 rounds. He's not fat head Ruiz.

I'd say Joshua within 6 or 7. But of course Wilder can end it with one shot.

50/50ish. But it doesn't go the distance.

[Kezzer]

I know you are a boxing fan and so am I but if Deontay Wilder doesn't get everything he is asking for then there will be no fight. It's just that plain and simple.

This is the biggest issue. After Ortiz 2 and Ruiz 2 the gulf in purses has just grown further. Wilder Ortiz ppv numbers were well below what anyone expected while it sounds like Joshua Ruiz 2 did superb numbers in the uk ppv and pretty decent numbers across dazn (although not confirmed specifically split by location). The UK element alone made £40 million though.

What that means is that if Joshua chooses to he could easily demand a higher -% split, he owns 4 of the 5 belts too. Wilder brings a relative small portion to the table and only one of the belts.

To get this fight to happen AJ is going to have to compromise a far amount more than wilder as it stands so Wilder standing his ground for specific terms is just going to make it harder.

That isn’t the only issue though, 2020 is effectively ruled out as Wilder Fury already have two fights scheduled and there is a good chance that even if Wilder wins those that he will have to fight Whyte as a mandatory defence.

Consider that in that time (al going well) Joshua has probably faced a combination like Pulev, Usyk, Hunter, Ortiz. If he’s continued to win it’s likely a number of UK fighters have grown into big domestic fights - Dubois and Joyce to Name two. So AJ will possibly have credible big alternative options.

So end of 2021 looks the earliest we can get the fight and even then 2022 looks more likely to me now.

Furthermore - this delay doesn’t benefit wilder I’m sure given his age!

[a.rihn]

I would agree AJ can outbox Wilder on paper. But man, he'd hafta get on that bicycle and MOVE for all twelve rounds, because he's going to crumble like cake if they get toe-to-toe for more than a punch or two.

[hugh grant]

I can't believe so many think wilder win because he hits hard, rather than favour better boxer who hits hard also.
People didn't bet against floyd who didn't ko anyone? I guess Floyd cherrypicked and never came across murderous punches like ggg