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  • Robbie Barrett
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    #1

    Do we have 2 HW divisions?

    We have Joshua, Whyte, Parker, Ruiz, Chisora, Takam etc fighting each other. Then We have Wilder and Fury with no interest in fighting any of them. Wilder has had 10 defences and managed to avoid the vast majority of top 10 HW's. Reminds me of when we used to have the Top Rank WW division, where Pacquiao and Bradley wouldn't fight anyone from Goldenboy.

    HW Division
    Joshua
    Ruiz
    Whyte
    Parker
    Povetkin
    Chisora
    Takam
    etc

    Wilder Division
    Wilder
    Fury
    Ortiz
    (insert PBC fighter here)
    Last edited by Robbie Barrett; 12-07-2019, 10:15 PM.
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    In one sentence you mentioned a heavyweight champion, two bottom of the top 10 types, a guy who was unranked before a huge upset and two more unranked fighters.

    In the next sentence you mention the best two heavyweights in the world who have fought each other and will have a rematch.

    So what the f**k are you talking about?

    Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
    We have Joshua, Whyte, Parker, Ruiz, Chisora, Takam etc fighting each other. Then We have Wilder and Fury with no interest in fighting any of them. Wilder has had 10 defences and managed to avoid the vast majority of top 10 HW's.

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    • Larry the boss
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      Come on man Ruiz is a tub of lard who hit the lotto..Chisora is a damn gate keeper at best and Takem??? no need to try to overhype all the nonsense..we have top 3 guys who need a round Robin...all the rest are not worth mentioning

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        #4
        Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
        In one sentence you mentioned a heavyweight champion, two bottom of the top 10 types, a guy who was unranked before a huge upset and two more unranked fighters.

        In the next sentence you mention the best two heavyweights in the world who have fought each other and will have a rematch.

        So what the f**k are you talking about?
        Originally posted by historian larry
        Come on man Ruiz is a tub of lard who hit the lotto..Chisora is a damn gate keeper at best and Takem??? no need to try to overhype all the nonsense..we have top 3 guys who need a round Robin...all the rest are not worth mentioning
        Those fighters have been in and around the top 10 for many years. Somehow Wilder has avoided the lot of them. They are fighting each other though. So it looks like we have 2 divisions. The HW division and the Wilder division.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
          Those fighters have been in and around the top 10 for many years. Somehow Wilder has avoided the lot of them. They are fighting each other though. So it looks like we have 2 divisions. The HW division and the Wilder division.
          Ruiz was not a top heavyweight until he beat Joshua..Chisora is not a top heavyweight and hasnt been for awhile...Not sure why you keep trying to sneak them in there...

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          • Robbie Barrett
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            Originally posted by historian larry
            Ruiz was not a top heavyweight until he beat Joshua..Chisora is not a top heavyweight and hasnt been for awhile...Not sure why you keep trying to sneak them in there...
            Chisora and Ruiz have been around the top 10 for years so you're wrong, i also forgot about Povetkin. We definitely have 2 divisions. Even Wilder opponents Fury and Ortiz won't fight these guys.

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            • SilverMiles
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              I actually don’t understand how anyone could rank Wilder in the Top 2. Ruiz beats the clear #1 Heavyweight and instead of him being elevated people elevate Wilder and Fury to the top spot.

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              • MisterPullman
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                  #9
                  Not two divisions but certainly two sides of the draw (bracket for Americans).

                  Wilder/Fury seem to have moved up the rankings by virtue of staying on their side. Despite being on the side with less depth.

                  Personally, I think it's ridiculous Ring offering up their belt if Wilder fights Fury again. That should be reserved for a final. If we ever get one.

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                    Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                    We have Joshua, Whyte, Parker, Ruiz, Chisora, Takam etc fighting each other. Then We have Wilder and Fury with no interest in fighting any of them. Wilder has had 10 defences and managed to avoid the vast majority of top 10 HW's. Reminds me of when we used to have the Top Rank WW division, where Pacquiao and Bradley wouldn't fight anyone from Goldenboy.

                    HW Division
                    Joshua
                    Ruiz
                    Whyte
                    Parker
                    Povetkin
                    Chisora
                    Takam
                    etc

                    Wilder Division
                    Wilder
                    Fury
                    Ortiz
                    (insert PBC fighter here)
                    Wilder had a bout with Poketvin signed, sealed and delivered. He went to Russia in anticipation of the fight happening. Povetkin failed a drug test. Fight was canceled.

                    So to you that means Wilder "had no interest " and "avoided" a guy in your self defined HW Division?

                    Your boy AJ just fought a great fight; don't tarnish his legacy with your delusional behavior and erroneous assertions.

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