Why do Crawford fans think that PBC fighters are ducking him?

[Curt Henning]

I understand that but this one is clearly on PBC.

Crawford wants to fight for more titles. PBC has the other three titles in house and won’t risk losing them. They’re all going to fight each other before Crawford is invited to the party.

I’m not blaming anyone, I’m just pointing out that PBC is the one that won’t include Crawford. Top Rank will clearly do business with them for Crawford because it hurts them to not do business with PBC in this case.

you are blaming someone though

if bob had pbcs roster of WWs and crawford was sitting on the other side he wouldnt even look in crawfords direction for a second....and we all know that....and bob knows it....hes so pissy about it though he went and nabbed fury and held him from wilder trying to enact revenge thinking it will hurt wilder.....

bob stalled the floyd/pac fight for years and anyone who isnt dumb, deaf and blind could tell you that...

bob has a few stars scattered across a few divisions....but hes overall thin and forced to overpay crawford or his opponents now if they are actually a decent name

arum literally seethes at the thought of al haymon...a black guy coming in and running the sport the way he used to....he hates losing his grip

[STREET CLEANER]

but yall said arum will only co-promote if he knows his fighter will win. and that's why he kept pac away from floyd until he couldnt milk manny anymore. so you telling me it's different with crawford now?

Have you ever heard that I typed something like that?
Only an ignorant person would say that. There is no such thing a Arum know that his fighter is going to win.

So you want to group me in with the 1diots that said that. Arum is a cancer. It is a reason why ODLH, Floyd and others leave him. Mikey had to sue his way out.

[IceTrayDaGang]

Have you ever heard that I typed something like that?
Only an ignorant person would say that. There is no such thing a Arum know that his fighter is going to win.

So you want to group me in with the 1diots that said that. Arum is a cancer. It is a reason why ODLH, Floyd and others leave him. Mikey had to sue his way out.

wish you would have the same energy bout this when TBE fans was saying arum will only make the fight if he knows his fighters will win.

[The Big Dunn]

Crawford-Spence only makes sense if it was PPV. I don't see what's wrong with Arum's statement. Having two PPVs with mediocre buyrates doesn't make Spence an overwhelming A-side. Crawford is still by far the most recognizable and most accomplished fighter Spence would have fought. He wasn't even the overwhelming A-side against Mikey and Porter. Both those guys got paid close to what Spence got.

Crawford is a free man. He shouldn't have to be strong armed into signing with PBC. Disrespecting and diminishing Crawford isn't the best way to show you're interested in signing him.

You don't? That was Arum blocking the fight. Arum basically was saying the fight will happen on my terms because I have the bigger earner. When that was proven false, then he suddenly changed course and decided the fight was ready to go immediately.

More than 125,000 units at $75 is about $10 million. That is significant.

Manny has the WBA title. He would be the most recognizable name Spence could fight in a unification fight right now. If you were running PBC, would you do that unification first or Spence/Crawford?

Not true again. Crawford re-signed with TR about a year before his contract was up. Now I completely understand given he was over paid to stay. That stated, he knew what this would mean, especially since Manny signed with PBC and did a PPV that sold about 500k units.

It was never a case of being "strong armed" it was a case of choosing money over opportunity. Remember Arum couldn't get Manny to fight him when Manny was still with TR so Crawford really should've seen the writing on the wall.

You fault the PBC guys when they choose PBC over dazn or espn and it means they don't get certain fights. You should have the same standard for Crawford.

[Ray*]

Am not a Crawford fan and I do think the top PBC fighters are ducking him. I also think his promoter is doing him a disservice too. If Arum really wants him to fight the other guys then put the Wilder/Fury 2 out as a ESPN/PBC undercard, ask for Bud to be on that card against a top name from PBC. The fact that PBC are proving to wanting to work alone is proof enough that they don’t want to work with Arum for a 147 fight.

[STREET CLEANER]

wish you would have the same energy bout this when TBE fans was saying arum will only make the fight if he knows his fighters will win.

I don't entertain that nonsense. Why argue with somebody that will say a comment like that? It is a losing proposition and a conversation that is not going no where because it is not within reason.

[Madison Boxing]

this guy is a damn crybaby,' oh waa waa waa no pbc fighters are gonna fight me (even though i knew that when i signed the extension with arum)'

[Bob Haymon]

You don't? That was Arum blocking the fight. Arum basically was saying the fight will happen on my terms because I have the bigger earner. When that was proven false, then he suddenly changed course and decided the fight was ready to go immediately.

More than 125,000 units at $75 is about $10 million. That is significant.

Manny has the WBA title. He would be the most recognizable name Spence could fight in a unification fight right now. If you were running PBC, would you do that unification first or Spence/Crawford?

Not true again. Crawford re-signed with TR about a year before his contract was up. Now I completely understand given he was over paid to stay. That stated, he knew what this would mean, especially since Manny signed with PBC and did a PPV that sold about 500k units.

It was never a case of being "strong armed" it was a case of choosing money over opportunity. Remember Arum couldn't get Manny to fight him when Manny was still with TR so Crawford really should've seen the writing on the wall.

You fault the PBC guys when they choose PBC over dazn or espn and it means they don't get certain fights. You should have the same standard for Crawford.

Arum was acknowledging that the fight wasn't financially viable at the time. I don't interpret that as blocking anything.

Spence hasn't fought Manny. I was comparing Crawford to guys Spence has fought.

I've never faulted anybody for choosing PBC over DAZN. I respect when fighters are loyal. I think PBC and DAZN promoters should be collaborating. It would help build fighters like the Charlos, Wilder and Davis who have mostly fought no hopers.

[rickJen]

I'm not a fan of any particular fighter, I'm a fan of the sport.
All we can observe is not one of these PBC fighters is interested
in beating Crawford.
Not one.

[tito_bandito]

I'm not a fan of any particular fighter, I'm a fan of the sport.
All we can observe is not one of these PBC fighters is interested
in beating Crawford.
Not one.

They can’t fight him because of Arum. If they’re all fighting competitive fights amongst each other, then how are they afraid of Crawford? Crawford has fought who at welterweight? Think about the amount of competitive fights PBC has made and how many Top Rank has made. Top Rank should be begging to PBC to make fights happen, but Arum wants all fights in-house.