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  • #41
    I think theyre ducking him because they refuse to fight him, mention his name, etc. Bud has a belt, why not beat him and give youreself better leverage in order to fight the other belt holders PBC has at WW?

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    • #42
      Crawford's resume proves he doesn't fight the best opposition. The PBC welterweights fight better opposition. The Top Rank hype job recipe maker is in full work. Sign a **** fight, claim you want to fight the best(while proving the opposite with **** fights), and piggyback off their names in hopes the Top Rank dumbass fanboys buy into you supposedly wanting the all the smoke. Only a moron thinks PBC welterweights are ducking that overrated hype job.

      Jeff Horn, peg legged Jose Benavidez, and washed up Amir Khan(who Crawford had to lowblow) is such a **** resume for a supposed top p4p fighter and welterweight. Crawford is also no draw. But dumbasses think he runs the division and calls shots. Bob Arum is already talking about cherry picking 140lbers moving up for Crawford lol. But he wants da best doe 🤥

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      • #43
        Originally posted by tito_bandito View Post
        My argument is that Crawford knows that it’s hard for Top Rank and PBC to work together. Unless you’ve been living under a rock, you should know this. Crawford knew that PBC had all the welterweights before signing with Arum. I’m really sure that PBC guys will fight him. Danny Garcia, Porter, Thurman, and Spence have all fought each other. You’re telling me they are going to be afraid of the guy who’s only beaten Jeff Horn in the division? Arum knows Crawford can’t pull numbers so against any of these guys, Crawford might not make Arum as much money since the promoters have to allocate the revenue based on popularity. Crawford might be able to reel in Porter, but Arum might not agree to a 55/45 split with Haymon.
        That's not a reason for a fighter to abandon his promoter. The blame lays with PBC for keeping all of their WWs away from Crawford.

        And please don't give me "are they really afraid of a guy who's only beaten Jeff Horn". The world knows that Crawford is legitimate top WW. You can make an argument that maybe Spence or Pacquaio deserve to be on top, but to pretend that PBC doesn't want their guys fighting Crawford because "he only beat Jeff Horn" is laughable.

        Crawford is in his prime, has the best claim to #1 WW and is unarguably Top3 P4P. On PBC side, they have drunk Spence coming off an accident and 41 year old Pacquaio. So yeah, they're ducking Bud in his prime, because if he embarrasses any of their top WWs, their stable becomes a laughing stock.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by El_Mero View Post
          I think theyre ducking him because they refuse to fight him, mention his name, etc. Bud has a belt, why not beat him and give youreself better leverage in order to fight the other belt holders PBC has at WW?
          Because Arum won’t make the fight happen lol. Why even talk about a fight they know can’t happen? It’s been like this for years. Top Rank and PBC just don’t really work together. How hard is that to understand? It’s easy for Crawford to call out fighters he knows he can’t fight only to put up a bluff and fight someone C level fighter.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by j0zef View Post
            That's not a reason for a fighter to abandon his promoter. The blame lays with PBC for keeping all of their WWs away from Crawford.

            And please don't give me "are they really afraid of a guy who's only beaten Jeff Horn". The world knows that Crawford is legitimate top WW. You can make an argument that maybe Spence or Pacquaio deserve to be on top, but to pretend that PBC doesn't want their guys fighting Crawford because "he only beat Jeff Horn" is laughable.

            Crawford is in his prime, has the best claim to #1 WW and is unarguably Top3 P4P. On PBC side, they have drunk Spence coming off an accident and 41 year old Pacquaio. So yeah, they're ducking Bud in his prime, because if he embarrasses any of their top WWs, their stable becomes a laughing stock.
            Look at the resumes of the top WW’s in PBC and compare them to Crawford. No way are they afraid of him and they are all fighting each other. Crawford stands no chance against Spence and might not even be able to beat Danny Garcia or Porter. He’s the weakest of all Welterweights. His name doesn’t hold any weight. He’s an HBO hype job that they oversold. Look what happened to Golovkin, now he’s getting slapped around. Same **** will happen to Crawford.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by tito_bandito View Post
              Because Arum won’t make the fight happen lol. Why even talk about a fight they know can’t happen? It’s been like this for years. Top Rank and PBC just don’t really work together. How hard is that to understand? It’s easy for Crawford to call out fighters he knows he can’t fight only to put up a bluff and fight someone C level fighter.
              So youre blaming EVERYTHING on Arum. Thanks for the clarification. Why even make a thread if you already know your answer? Definitely a weird flex, but ok, kid

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              • #47
                Originally posted by tito_bandito View Post
                Because Arum won’t make the fight happen lol. Why even talk about a fight they know can’t happen? It’s been like this for years. Top Rank and PBC just don’t really work together. How hard is that to understand? It’s easy for Crawford to call out fighters he knows he can’t fight only to put up a bluff and fight someone C level fighter.
                When was the last time Haymon went out of his way to put one of his fighters against someone from Top Rank, Golden Boy, or Matchroom? Arum is already working with Haymon on Fury-Wilder. Why would he want to risk his biggest cash cow against the biggest puncher in the sport but not want to make Crawford vs. Spence?

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by Bob Haymon View Post
                  When was the last time Haymon went out of his way to put one of his fighters against someone from Top Rank, Golden Boy, or Matchroom? Arum is already working with Haymon on Fury-Wilder. Why would he want to risk his biggest cash cow against the biggest puncher in the sport but not want to make Crawford vs. Spence?
                  Probably because Tyson Fury already beat Wilder and it wasn’t even a close fight? Besides the two knockdowns, Wilder pretty much lost every round. Arum is probably confident Fury can pull it off again. The talent pool is much larger at Welterweight and if Crawford loses, who else will Arum have for that money division? He’s already talking about making guys at 140 move up to fight Crawford cuz he has no one at welterweight in his roster and he prefers to keep the money in house. Crawford will not be the A side against Spence, Danny Garcia, or Keith Thurman. He might be able to get Porter, but Crawford’s name doesn’t hold any weight to negotiate a fair split between PBC and Top Rank and Arum knows this.

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                  • #49
                    I’m not blaming someone, I’m pointing out which promotional team is preventing Crawford-Spence and Crawford-Pacquiao. It isn’t Top Rank, it’s PBC.

                    I even acknowledged that I understand why it’s a smart business decision on PBC’s part.

                    Originally posted by Curt Henning View Post
                    you are blaming someone though

                    if bob had pbcs roster of WWs and crawford was sitting on the other side he wouldnt even look in crawfords direction for a second....and we all know that....and bob knows it....hes so pissy about it though he went and nabbed fury and held him from wilder trying to enact revenge thinking it will hurt wilder.....

                    bob stalled the floyd/pac fight for years and anyone who isnt dumb, deaf and blind could tell you that...

                    bob has a few stars scattered across a few divisions....but hes overall thin and forced to overpay crawford or his opponents now if they are actually a decent name

                    arum literally seethes at the thought of al haymon...a black guy coming in and running the sport the way he used to....he hates losing his grip

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by tito_bandito View Post
                      Probably because Tyson Fury already beat Wilder and it wasn’t even a close fight? Besides the two knockdowns, Wilder pretty much lost every round. Arum is probably confident Fury can pull it off again. The talent pool is much larger at Welterweight and if Crawford loses, who else will Arum have for that money division? He’s already talking about making guys at 140 move up to fight Crawford cuz he has no one at welterweight in his roster and he prefers to keep the money in house. Crawford will not be the A side against Spence, Danny Garcia, or Keith Thurman. He might be able to get Porter, but Crawford’s name doesn’t hold any weight to negotiate a fair split between PBC and Top Rank and Arum knows this.
                      There won't be any split at all because PBC won't negotiate a fight where one of their fighters might lose to Crawford.

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