Rick Glaser: Wilder will never be PPV star

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  • llll
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    #51
    You know what will make Deontay wilder a ppv star? Holding all the ****ing belts.

    Whoever becomes the next Undisputed Heavyweight Champion of the world will get a free ticket on the hype train.

    Deontay can talk the talk. If he's holding all the belts, that proves without any doubt that he's walked the walk. He can say and do anything he wants and nobody can tell him different because he's wearing the literal crown of boxing as the undisputed heavyweight champion of the world. He'll be the undisputed king of boxing.

    Everywhere he walks around, every interview he does, every time he yells BOMB SQUAD. People will whisper, "who's that?", and those who know will answer... "that's the heavyweight champion of the world."

    He'll be a star as long as he wears those belts.

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      #52
      You can’t just decide to be a PPV star after several titles defenses and force a fight that’s already been done ,bad move. Wilder needs Fury and will cash out in those fights.

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      • Boksfan
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        #53
        Larry fool and Beta Cuck Cobra are the one 2 Americans who bought Wildher PPV

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          #54
          Originally posted by OnePunch
          Except it is the promoter who incurs the losses for the first 15 or 20 fights in the fighters career. Those fights COST money, they dont MAKE money. So if the promoter does not have a contract which gives him the chance of making his money back one day, then what incentive is there for him to fund the first 75% of the fighters career?
          So you're suggesting promoters back in the day when signing guys to multi-year contracts wasn't a thing lost money cuz of all these mfers on the bottom of a card? Thats nuts.

          If you make a good card folks wanna see the $400 to $5k level pay fighters won't be making you go broke. The main event and main card draw should sustain the rest of the card. If you are making a straight up and down first 15 to 20 fight guys full event well no sh^t you are probably are going to lose money cuz that's a bs ass boxing event.

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            #55
            Originally posted by Eff Pandas
            So you're suggesting promoters back in the day when signing guys to multi-year contracts wasn't a thing lost money cuz of all these mfers on the bottom of a card? Thats nuts.

            If you make a good card folks wanna see the $400 to $5k level pay fighters won't be making you go broke. The main event and main card draw should sustain the rest of the card. If you are making a straight up and down first 15 to 20 fight guys full event well no sh^t you are probably are going to lose money cuz that's a bs ass boxing event.
            "back in the day" you actually had MANAGERS who subsidized fighter development, and promoters just promoted fights. You dont really have that anymore. The role of funding fighter development has fallen almost exclusively on the promoters.

            NOBODY makes money on a club show. And there arent enough undercard slots available on larger TV shows to move all the guys who need 6 and 8 round fights. Somebody has to pay for that.

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              #56
              Originally posted by Eff Pandas
              PPV been dying almost as long as PBC been dying.

              Mfers in boxing are too invested in and damn near rooting on failure for some reason.
              I love boxing and I root for every PPV that doesn't warrant the price tag to fail miserably.

              We keep paying and they keep sticking us with worse and worse matchups for $75.

              No thanks....

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                #57
                wilder vs aj, fury, or ruiz will sell good numbers... if he wins all those fights he can sell 500k+ for the remainder of career and ride off into the sunset, but he will never do mayweather numbers if thats what people are wondering...

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by uppercut510
                  wilder vs aj, fury, or ruiz will sell good numbers... if he wins all those fights he can sell 500k+ for the remainder of career and ride off into the sunset, but he will never do mayweather numbers if thats what people are wondering...
                  If he wins all those fight he wont have anyone left to fight

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by OnePunch
                    "back in the day" you actually had MANAGERS who subsidized fighter development, and promoters just promoted fights. You dont really have that anymore. The role of funding fighter development has fallen almost exclusively on the promoters.

                    NOBODY makes money on a club show. And there arent enough undercard slots available on larger TV shows to move all the guys who need 6 and 8 round fights. Somebody has to pay for that.
                    There are managers who still do that. You still hear stories about managers paying their fighter plus his opponent on cards cuz promoters won't spend the money. Who knows how many stories you don't hear about.The reality is most promoters and managers don't care or see a future in about 98% of the boxers out there so no one is invested in them and if you are putting together cards full of guys no one cares about in uncompetitive fights than yea you are gonna lose money. And that's what most club shows are today. You gotta be selling SOMETHING. The local kid made good, the KO artist, evenly matched competitive fights or f#cking something besides "a night at the fights" like is the basic motif of most club shows these days.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Jsmooth9876
                      I love boxing and I root for every PPV that doesn't warrant the price tag to fail miserably.

                      We keep paying and they keep sticking us with worse and worse matchups for $75.

                      No thanks....
                      And there lotsa cats here with that mindset with boxers, promoters and platforms too.

                      And fwiw I don't disagree boxing gots a PR problem and to me the biggest problem gots is structurally cuz the sports makes no f#cking sense as a bunch of mom and pop businesses each out for their own best upside. Imagine if any other sport operated like boxing. NFL teams would just play the 16 worst teams to get the best record they could to enhance their chance to make the playoffs. NBA teams would be holding out playing the NBA Finals cuz it's not paying THAT much yet. Sh^t would be as nuts if other sports did boxing sh^t and that's why the underlying problem with boxing that no one realllllly wants to talk about in boxing isit makes no mfing sense.

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