Rick Glaser: Wilder will never be PPV star

[Eff Pandas]

Wilder imo will do In the neighborhood of 350k max with these opponents. I can’t ever see him eclipsing this.

I think a HW like Wilder has a higher ceiling than 350k. Casuals love HWs. It's just a matter of selling him correctly and him catching fire. Since Lou has been gone I think they've done a better job at getting eyes on him so I think he's on a upward trajectory now. If that gets him over 350k buys who knows, but I definitely think it's possible.

[LA_2_Vegas]

I don't spend too much time dealing with these things, just hope boxing is successful regardless.

Hopefully there will be some opponents to make a Wilder PPV viable and make sense....but if not, then I don't see what use it is to put him on PPV to make him a star.

It has to be said...people like to see KO's but also want their monies worth. Sitting back for 7-8 rounds not throw a shot and then having the fight end with 1 punch MAY not be what people consider money well spent. Much different than watching a 'whirling dervish' like Tyson who was also promising KO's, but in a different way. And I remember people saying the same thing about him at the time - that the PPV's weren't worth it- although I was young at the time and could be misremembering those sentiments. Some of those cards were stacked with exciting prospects and often time, JCC SR

[GhostofDempsey]

We have to take into consideration what a PPV star in boxing looks like in the post-Mayweather era. What's the threshold? If the standard is 1 million buys or better, then I don't see Wilder becoming a PPV star. If the new target is 500K, it's possible against AJ or Fury, but then you have to consider their selling power as well. As a stand alone against marginal opposition, Wilder can't sell. In fact, not many fighters can today outside of Canelo, Pac, and AJ.

[Ray*]

The sad bit here is, some people would never get it.

This isn’t about wanting someone to fail. This is about validating what sane people already knew, that Wilder isn’t a big enough name to make demands, which in turn meant he was the one whose demand killed the undisputed fight that we all wanted to see.

You don’t need to pray for Wilder to fail, the numbers surrounding him cannot lie.

In the end you would have to open the books, when you are selling less than Crawford/Khan then you don’t deserve to be demanding 10 times your worth.

And if someone is offering you 5/8 times your worth and you still turning it down and accusing others of low balling you, then no one should sit here and accuse others of wanting anyone to fail.

This numbers just prove what we all knew all along, proves what showtime thought would happen, proves Wilder has been ducking the Joshua fight for the last 2 years.

And I hope this would mean he and his fans would drop the “Lowball” BS that they like to sing. And actually put pressure on him to make that fight if Joshua wins, instead of him announcing two fights ahead of another AJ fight.

[MaksBox]

PPV is dying though...

Put it this way... while I would not spend $80 on a single fight, I have no problem paying $100 for the year to catch 2 Canelo, 2 AJ and countless other good fights, from any device, at any time.

Most I would consider spending on a PPV fight is $20, $30 max...

[sicko]

No he probably won't... again becoming a Crossover Superstar in the sport of boxing is probably the most difficult thing to become and it can take a long time. Mayweather did not become that until he was out of his prime and well into his 30's and turned into "Money" Mayweather late in his career and embraced being a Villain

However, the good thing about boxing is that even without becoming a Superstar you can still make A LOT of money in your career which is great for the fighters at least

I love what FOX doing but I do think they as well as PBC and even the fighters are dropping the ball by not wanting to put their fights on FOX for Free because they want PPV Money. Take advantage of being able to reach more people on FOX and build up your STARDOM on FOX then ask them to buy your PPV for fights that is worth putting on PPV. Also PPV's needs to be STACKED when they do them!

[Inspired]

Rick Glaser, who is he, and who cares.

Deontay is ESPN's most famous boxer of 2019.

One of Forbes' top 5 highest-earning boxers of 2019.

Net worth soon to climb into the 9-figure range in 2020.

Longest reigning currently active Heavyweight Champion of the World.

Future Hall of Famer and Undisputed Heavyweight Champion of the World.

espn via bob arum, only put wilder top of that list to derail the Wilder vs AJ negotiations.
It says a lot about Wilder that he even took that seriously and mentioned it.

fyi
ESPN's list of 'most famous' was based on 3 criteria
-search results
-social media
-marketability

AJ is ahead of wilder in all 3. However at the same time, even Tyson Fury had ranked higher than wilder in google trends in the US...and Spence jr had ranked higher than them all.

[Inspired]

The real problem for Wilder is his age. He's 34...and he really should have been promoted like this 5 yrs ago.
The first problem was he was with goldenboy..and they were very poor with black boxers. Which black boxer did they make into a ppv star? none. They had Wilder boxing on an amir khan undercard back in 2013. GBP were a fking joke.
The second problem is when Wilder switched to pbc, pbc were all over the place and had no promotional credibility. So his career just lagged behind.
AJ obviously had sky sports and Eddie hearn behind him...who had a lot of momentum going for a few yrs.

The reason I can't have any sympathy for wilder is because Eddie spoke in his favour in 2017 in this interview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNR3dNmtK2I
at no point was Eddie mocking the guy. He was proving a point and dissing the US promotions/broadcasters...eg 'no one knows about daniel jacobs because no one talks about him' (not those exact words).
Eddie was then quoted out of context where clips surfacer of eddie walking around asking people "do you know who deontsy wilder is?" and his reaction was a **** one.

what wilder should have done is watched it properly and concluded "eddie hearn is absolutely correct, al hsymon, gbp before...showtime, theyve not done **** for me"

[baroidi]

just imagine if Ruiz Jr beats Joshua and then fights Wilder. If Wilder becomes undisputed, a boxing revival can happen in Murica. Wilder is the type of HW promoters dream of. Casuals don't care about boxing fundamentals, they are attracted to loudmouthed WWE characters that delivers highlight reel KOs. Wilder just needs the legitimacy by holding all the belts and I can see him becoming a crossover star. With the weakness of this HW era, with cleaver matchmaking by his handlers, Wilder can even walk away from this sport and become an "ATG" lol

[j0zef]

Glaser is a troll and his numbers need to be taken with a mountain of salt. Having said that, he's the only one with some semblance of credibility that's releasing any numbers.

The good thing is that he's relatively predictable when it comes to his #s and stated #s released by network/promoter. Glaser's numbers are usually 2/3 of what the networks say, so we can say it will likely do around 200k buys. If Wilder was guaranteed 20m and Ortiz was guaranteed 7m, then the event was a huge, huge bomb. The much more likely scenario is those purses were "up to" depends on PPV performance. It just wasn't stated as such.