Check out AJ's new physique

[GelfSara]

Oh please. This is an entirely different proposition here. But I will give you one example of rehydrating too much where it did cause a fighter's stamina to collapse. That was Leonard/Hearns 1.

As you know, Hearns weighed-in at 145 for that fight (at welterweight; same-day weigh-ins were still being used) and did not seem to sweat normally during the bout despite the extreme heat. Some people argue that the problem was not rehydration but dehydration. How would you counter their argument?

[GelfSara]

you are full of s hit. you do not put on muscle when you get older. you lack the chemistry. if you were able to put muscle on naturally into your 30's THERE WOULD BE NO NEED FOR PED'S

Let me see if I understand you correctly. If a 50 year-old man comes to me and asks me to be his personal trainer, and I ask him what his goals are, and he tells me that he has been staying in reasonable shape due to boxing training such as bag work, sparring, running and sit-ups, but that now he wants to gain muscle mass, if I tell him he can accomplish this without using drugs I am either lying or mistaken?

[New England]

one of hte most obvious drug cheats in all of boxing. the idea that you'd fight for a HW title in saudi arabia under the hearn banner after hearn's fighter popped positive for an anabolic steroid and brought his own f#ckin ggloves to the fight is nuts.


fighters do not overhaul their physiques in a matter of months. these are not body builders. they work out to get in shape for a fight, not to look a certain way. there really won't be much change in muscle mass without drugs. might put on a few lbs or lose a few lbs, not go from looking like this to the hulk, or vice versa.

dillian white popped for an anabolic steroid and was allowed to box. that is what it is. you think joshua is clean and chubby dillian white is not? you think hearn will cover for his B side without protecting his cash cow?

can't wait to see this cheat sparked clean out again, and for hearn's influence over the division to die out completely.

ideally he gets knocked around and then pops positive and gets 2 years of banishment. comes back and gets starched by wilder in 2 rounds and retires.

[F l i c k e r]

Wrong. From a function standpoint; he DOES need to lose water. It will only slow him down. He's really paying for lifting weights now.

Not really.

At heavyweight, that is purely up to him if he wants to look like a highly conditioned athlete come weigh in.

Or your average boxer/ heavyweight.

Hell, even in the current shape he is in. He looks better than 99% of Heavyweights. Even Usyk looks like AJ in that picture, at his weigh ins.

The only top ranked heavyweight that has better physique conditioning than AJ in that picture is Wilder. Who honestly looks about -2% body fat from AJ in that picture, during his weigh ins.

[NoConcoms]

As you know, Hearns weighed-in at 145 for that fight (at welterweight; same-day weigh-ins were still being used) and did not seem to sweat normally during the bout despite the extreme heat. Some people argue that the problem was not rehydration but dehydration. How would you counter their argument?

I wouldn't counter their argument at all, because they would be right. Of course was dehydrated. Think about it; He weighed in at 145lbs. He probably entered the ring at 160-165lbs. He probably walked around at 175-180lbs out of camp.

Even at 160lbs he was always going to be dyhyrdated. He should have maxed out at 147lbs. It may have helped.

[Ghost of Sparta]

Simply lowered the extremely high dosages. He now only takes enough to kill 2 cows instead of 10.

100%, he is no longer stacking three or four different steroids, he will instead be using some form of other steroid or performance enhancing drug eg EPO for endurance rather than an androgen for lean mass/strength.

A doper as big as him isn't going clean, just trying a different substance as the other stuff didn't help him first time around as he was lit up when carrying all that unnatural bulk.

[Ghost of Sparta]

Loses mass, AND definition...
Guys I've seen do that have been mostly in MMA. Lesnar, Overeem, Belfort... All guys that got clean and lost mass and definition. Normally, you become more defined when you lean up.

That's the give away! You would look more shredded if that was natural muscle you'd lost in such a short amount of time, we're talking less than six months here.

Belfort and Reem struggled to adapt after going clean. It would effect the muscle memory and mind muscle connection big time losing that amount of mass, in a combat sport that could be dangerous if you're going in with elite level opposition.

[Ghost of Sparta]

That's the prevailing wisdom, as body fat is not functional. However, how do you explain cardio freaks like Daniel Cormier or Cain Velazquez in MMA?

Muscle mass will not only slow you down, it will also effect your stamina, as bigger muscles require more oxygen.

The guy is making a fool of himself trying to speak of something he clearly knows nothing about. You are correct, he is spouting some serious bull.

[Ghost of Sparta]

Any mass does. Your body has to work harder to move. Yes some fat people have good stamina, they'd have even better if they weren't as fat. There's a reason all world class long distance runners are like skeletons.

Rubbish, there are people who carry a fair amount of body fat who may not look ripped but do regular High Intensity Intermittent Training and would destroy a long distance running bag of bones in terms of unleashing bursts of intense energy. Its a complete different type of fitness.

[Robbie Barrett]

Rubbish, there are people who carry a fair amount of body fat who may not look ripped but do regular High Intensity Intermittent Training and would destroy a long distance running bag of bones in terms of unleashing bursts of intense energy. Its a complete different type of fitness.

Fat does nothing but hinder stamina. This is basic fitness knowledge.