Has there ever been a fighter who's been praised so much for beating a 40 year old?

[DreamFighter]

wald was the champ and had a 10 year unbeaten run. Ortiz is a journeyman who's never held a title.

this.

waldo was not bad, but this ortiz is an old man for for 6 rounders who was never world rated in his life.

ortix must be wondering what he has done in previous lives to be given such a golden chance.

[Redd Foxx]

wald was the champ and had a 10 year unbeaten run. Ortiz is a journeyman who's never held a title.

So, now you have to change the script because your original statement didn't hold up.
Of course.

Fact is, guys like Fury are being bytches and taking joke fights. AJ just lost. Wilder fighting a dangerous guy means something. He could have just pulled a Fury.

[Toffee]

Every half decent fighter is dangerous for Wilder. That doesn't make him great if he beats them.

And it certainly doesn't make his opponents great. I saw someone on here refer to Ortiz as an "all time talent"! Another called him possibly the second best heavyweight.

His contribution to this reputation? Being Cuban and getting knocked out by Wilder.

[Citizen Koba]

35-40 is the new 30-35 because the modern fighters are so protected & well taken care of they have very lil wear & tear & most fighters aren't considered truly elite til like 30 yrs old nowadays most times. You have a good majority of champs these days in their 30s rather than 20s. Most fighters in their 20s these days are considered green. Ortiz was undefeated & legit top 5 hw(but he did have many weaknesses & he did school Wilder til Wilders right hand returned the favor)

But yes Wilder is being too hyped imho off this win. But it is Wilders best win on his resume to date.

I would have thought his previous win over a younger Ortiz should be considered a better win. As a general point though I'd say yeah, prime is usually considered 28 - 32 in the medial classes, a bit younger as you go down through the weightclasses and older for the bigger guys. For the Heavy or Super Heavy dudes it now ain't unusual to be operating at or close to the top level into their mid to late 30s... but it's still a stretch to say a 40 year old dude is going to be as good as a 35 or 37 year old version of the same guy.

[kushking]

I would have thought his previous win over a younger Ortiz should be considered a better win. As a general point though I'd say yeah, prime is usually considered 28 - 32 in the medial classes, a bit younger as you go down through the weightclasses and older for the bigger guys. For the Heavy or Super Heavy dudes it now ain't unusual to be operating at or close to the top level into their mid to late 30s... but it's still a stretch to say a 40 year old dude is going to be as good as a 35 or 37 year old version of the same guy.

Its debatable if ortiz 1 or 2 was a better win(this time might be a better win because it was a single punch ko at barely after halfway mark.)This Ortiz was in better condition I think but his age definitely plays a factor in punch resistance imo,I agree with Holyfield who said pre fight that Ortiz is too easily concussed & he doesn't have a good engine like gayby miller(roids) the age thing is never the same for any two fighters. Some fighters like ortiz have very lil wear & tear

[Curt Henning]

yes...the guys name is/was anthony joshua

but then he got wiped out by a 25-1 underdog with teets

[Toffee]

this time might be a better win because it was a single punch ko

Can someone explain this logic to me?

I can't even begin to comprehend it.

[kushking]

Can someone explain this logic to me?

I can't even begin to comprehend it.

It means Wilder won this time a lot more cleanly where as last time he was on the brink of being kod,& because of Wilder 1 hitter quitter ortiz right after the halfway point it means it is considered a more spectacular/impressive/eye catching etc. Win to many than last time. Anything else?

[Richard]

I'm sorry but i can't think of one fighter that was praised so much as wilder. You'd think he just fought a killer when in reality he fought a 40 year old journeyman with a glass jaw who's never held a title and beaten no one worth a damn. If it was anyone else in his position they would not get the same credit. But we all know why WILDER DOES right?

I dont think Ortiz is a journeyman.Had excellent amateur pedigree and a lot in the division didnt want to face him as he was so dangerous.I read as well that Wilder said he rated Ortiz as one of the best in the world today?

[Toffee]

It means Wilder won this time a lot more cleanly where as last time he was on the brink of being kod,& because of Wilder 1 hitter quitter ortiz right after the halfway point it means it is considered a more spectacular/impressive/eye catching etc. Win to many than last time. Anything else?

Spectacular, eye catching... that's like, better for Instagram or something is it?

He beat an older man than last time. He beat a guy with a loss on his record this time. He beat a guy he had already beaten this time.

Last time he was on the brink of being knocked out. This time he was on the way to being comprehensively UD'd.

I get that it's a director ending. But why would a one punch knockout be a better win? Than, for example, a dominant performance of outboxing his opponent.

Puncher's chance used to be akin to a criticism.