Wilder vs Ortiz financial disaster?

[Toffee]

what jam later? floyd was doing a million buys a ppv when he secured that big showtime deal so not sure why people are comparing wilder to floyd and they still lost money on floyds ppv's unless they cleared 1.5 million or more. wilder will be clearing what 200k for this piece of crap, but dont worry the better ones like against fury the huge star will be later. 325k! wouldn't be so bad if they werent paying wilder 20 million a fight, and i bet he will want more for that fury rematch! once you overpay a guy its very hard to explain to him that you have been overpaying him and you can't give him any more money for harder "bigger" fights. they become entitled and think their financial success is all their doing when in reality they were just a pawn in a network bidding war. its very hard to sit them down and explain to them how your real worth is about as much as a used 84 pinto.

That's what jam later or jam tomorrow means.

It will always be a promise, won't happen.

[Curt Henning]

No hate at all. Credit to Wilder! He's not a draw on his own, but has managed to secure good purses despite not being a draw at the gate or at PPV.

He's managed to use his own position as a potential opponent for Fury or AJ, to his advantage.

Kudos.

alright..i can respect that

[Curt Henning]

... as if wilder was a "pauper" until now... (in fact, aren't you "projecting" yourself into this supposed "pauper position"???)...

lol....stfu guy....all you have to do is look around here and see it with your own two eyes.....most of these guys still believe wilder is making 2 mil a fight...I still see it daily "oh ya I forgot about the haymon side money blah blah"

most of these guys act like wilder is some peasant....they don't believe he even made 7 million against fury most of them...."hes no draw" blah blah....hes the highest paid us born fighter by a long shot

[DaNeutral.]

i love it...mr pauper wilder is banking 20 mil from this and the haters are in an absolute frenzy!!!! its hilarious to watch you clowns in a tizzy over wilder banking the big bucks....dude is by far the highest paid US born boxer.....and he made the 4th most money in the last year in combat sports!!! thanks to DAZN, AJ and hearn or whomever you clowns want to thank and feel is responsible!!! lol

you guys do realize that networks have had to take a loss on a fighter today in order to get a piece of something bigger later right? showtime took losses on floyd fights in order to have a piece of the big ones

some feel a fury rematch could do 1 million buys...if AJ gets the belts back and that fight could happen its huge....fox could have a piece of wilder/fury and or wilder/aj down the line ...they are betting and ******** too....but having a piece of those fights would be big if wilder keeps winning

What? Same old narrative, take a loss now for bigger things in the future. What future? You talk like wilder is 21 years old and will hit the big time one day. He's in his mid 30,s and has had over 40 fights. He did get the chance at the big money already, HE RAN.

I'm happy wilders getting paid but let's be honest there is only 1 giant pay day for wilder and that's if he takes the B side offer from a massive A Side, Anthony Joshua.

Wilders money is going up but his numbers going down. It proves wilders getting paid but it certainly don't mean he's some mega star on equal footing of Joshua. And that's what all these money debates are about. Wilder demands 50 50 against somebody earning on a whole higher level than B side Wilder.

[Curt Henning]

like anyone takes anything from DaNeutered seriously....

[deathofaclown]

Let’s be honest, none of us really know he financials behind it.

One thing i’ll say is i think they had no choice but to overpay him to save face, even if it’s taking a big financial loss. When he’s being offered $100m from DAZN and he’s one of Haymon’s biggest names, if they just let him go because they couldn’t compete with that, then i’d a massive knock in their status. It also sends messages to the other bigger name PBC fighters that they should consider jumping ship if they can, because it’d show PBC can’t compete.

So i think they were somewhat backed into a corner and had to overpay rather than everyone see their bigger names going elsewhere. They had to protect their image.

[Articulateboxin]

I think Showtime's reaction to this fight is probably the most telling. They took the pain of a loss in Wilder's last fight, I guess with the idea it was an investment. However I guess they looked at the actuals of the fight, re-did the calculation and decided this is a poor investment to make. For whatever reason, Wilder's popularity just isn't taking off comparatively speaking to the investment being made into him. I feel for him, (not too much, he's still bagging the 20m, regardless of worth or not!) he went on record talking about loyalty to showtime and in the very next fight, they decide he isn't worth the loyalty afterall. I do wonder if Haymon is now having to factor in Wilder fighting on DAZN, just to re-coup their own losses and keep his fighter earning the amounts he is now demanding.

[Laligalaliga]

i love it...mr pauper wilder is banking 20 mil from this and the haters are in an absolute frenzy!!!! its hilarious to watch you clowns in a tizzy over wilder banking the big bucks....dude is by far the highest paid US born boxer.....and he made the 4th most money in the last year in combat sports!!! thanks to DAZN, AJ and hearn or whomever you clowns want to thank and feel is responsible!!! lol

you guys do realize that networks have had to take a loss on a fighter today in order to get a piece of something bigger later right? showtime took losses on floyd fights in order to have a piece of the big ones

some feel a fury rematch could do 1 million buys...if AJ gets the belts back and that fight could happen its huge....fox could have a piece of wilder/fury and or wilder/aj down the line ...they are betting and ******** too....but having a piece of those fights would be big if wilder keeps winning

All thanks to AJ, Eddie and DAZN wilder is making some good money now.

[Laligalaliga]

lol....stfu guy....all you have to do is look around here and see it with your own two eyes.....most of these guys still believe wilder is making 2 mil a fight...I still see it daily "oh ya I forgot about the haymon side money blah blah"

most of these guys act like wilder is some peasant....they don't believe he even made 7 million against fury most of them...."hes no draw" blah blah....hes the highest paid us born fighter by a long shot

Thats in the US....no one give a fzck.

[Curt Henning]

shouldn't all you brittards be concerned with AJ not embarrassing himself and all of you again by getting knocked by a sloppy looking 25-1 underdog ? I mean...id spend less time worrying about wilders money/marketability and more with AJ mental health and boxing ability