Seventh and Eighth Round of Wilder-Ortiz I

[LA_2_Vegas]

I think excuse was the guy that passed away in NY. But still till today I think it was shady thing to do. They didn’t inspect Wilder during the interval. They did AFTER the bell has sound and the boxers were about to collide. People keep throwing in other examples since that fight but almost all of them have been in the corner checks, not after the bell has rang with the doctor then deciding to do a check.

That is a very good point - none of the other examples that I've seen after that fight looked as bad as the Wilder one. Maybe that;s their procedure, but It LOOKED really odd. IIRC Wilder had to take a couple of steps to even get to the Doc

[Ray*]

That is a very good point - none of the other examples that I've seen after that fight looked as bad as the Wilder one. Maybe that;s their procedure, but It LOOKED really odd. IIRC Wilder had to take a couple of steps to even get to the Doc

And most of those other examples, has been when they have been KD badly, and struggled to end that round. For me no one is going to convince me that nothing shady happened there, credit to Wilder for not going down and finishing the job, but I personally didn’t think he need that little time that he was brought by the doctor. I mean what was he checking for at that point? Why didn’t he do those checks in Wilder’s corner?

[CubanGuyNYC]

I think excuse was the guy that passed away in NY. But still till today I think it was shady thing to do. They didn’t inspect Wilder during the interval. They did AFTER the bell has sound and the boxers were about to collide. People keep throwing in other examples since that fight but almost all of them have been in the corner checks, not after the bell has rang with the doctor then deciding to do a check.

It might’ve been after Magomed Abdusalamov, who was left with severe brain damage and whose family recently won a big settlement.

And I agree, the inspection should’ve happened between rounds, the way it’s always been done. Even Malignaggi, a NY-based fighter and commentator, thought it was shady.

[CubanGuyNYC]

I thought the same - even though it's seems to be NY's procedure, I still think it benefited him. I just don't attribute it to potential corruption (still creeps into my mind though, how can it not).

I don't really like the argument," oh, but Ortiz got the same break!"..that was his moment to pounce

Haha That’s pretty funny. Who has hurt at the end of the round, Ortiz or Wilder? Luis obviously wanted to pounce, as you say, and finish the job.

[SN!PER]

Deontay wanted to keep fighting, wasn't his fault that the doctor checked him. NY-based fights are doing this now. They also halted the action to check Arreola in the Kownacki fight, and he was pissed about it. This won't happen in Wilder vs. Ortiz II because it's in Las Vegas.

[CubanGuyNYC]

Deontay wanted to keep fighting, wasn't his fault that the doctor checked him. NY-based fights are doing this now. They also halted the action to check Arreola in the Kownacki fight, and he was pissed about it. This won't happen in Wilder vs. Ortiz II because it's in Las Vegas.

I’m not blaming Wilder. Credit to him and the way he finished. But he might not have gotten that chance if not for those twenty extra seconds. It might not have made a difference. Then again, it might have. We’ll never know.

[Boxing_1013]

They did this multiple times with Dereveychenko and his eye before rounds with GGG...that's just how they do it in New York...after that one guy that got really hurt vs Mike Perez, they are more vigilant...they probably got sued for $10s of millions after that so they have to be on guard.

[CubanGuyNYC]

They did this multiple times with Dereveychenko and his eye before rounds with GGG...that's just how they do it in New York...after that one guy that got really hurt vs Mike Perez, they are more vigilant...they probably got sued for $10s of millions after that so they have to be on guard.

Seems to be the consensus. But do they habitually check after the rest period and before the start of the round? Doesn’t make sense. There’s plenty of time to check between rounds, as has always been the procedure.

[Boxing_1013]

Seems to be the consensus. But do they habitually check after the rest period and before the start of the round? Doesn’t make sense. There’s plenty of time to check between rounds, as has always been the procedure.

Yeah I agree that I don't know why they don't do it during the minute in between rounds...maybe the fighters/trainers don't want them messing with them in that minute off.

It does feel a bit strange but I do feel they are consistent with it...I am not a Wilder fan (or hater) really at all..but even when I saw it, I didn't think too much of it...I don't think that extra 10-20 seconds really was going to help him or hurt him at that point...he's lucky the bell rang when it did though...Ortiz had him in a world of hurt.

[CubanGuyNYC]

Yeah I agree that I don't know why they don't do it during the minute in between rounds...maybe the fighters/trainers don't want them messing with them in that minute off.

It does feel a bit strange but I do feel they are consistent with it...I am not a Wilder fan (or hater) really at all..but even when I saw it, I didn't think too much of it...I don't think that extra 10-20 seconds really was going to help him or hurt him at that point...he's lucky the bell rang when it did though...Ortiz had him in a world of hurt.

Yeah, I’m in the same boat. I actually like Wilder, although I’d love to see Ortiz win, for obvious reasons. Lol But of all the fights I’ve ever watched, I don’t recall seeing this situation. As I’ve pointed out, even Paulie Malignaggi found it odd. I suppose the procedure was new then.

I don’t know if the extra time made a difference, but the point is that it might have. We’ll never know in this case. Deontay was hanging on at the bell. He might’ve been a little out of sorts at the bell, and got that little extra time to clear his head.