Comments Thread For: Andre Ward: I'm Not Breaking Retirement To Fight Canelo

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  • BoZz
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    #111
    Originally posted by dannnnn
    I suggest you go back and finish high school. He is mixed race. His father is white and his mother is black. It's that simple. There is no "choice" in the matter.
    His father is Irish American his mother is African American, so you can call him African American too...he's mixed yes but he sure isn't white...is he?

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    • Blond Beast
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      #112
      Originally posted by Jalen Rose
      Eh I mean he had all the cards stacked in his favor at 168 man...all his fights at home, and imo he needed them as I didn't see him really separate much boxing wise from most guys he fought....I think Andre was a tough smart fighter...but I think he got away with quite a bit 'dirtiness' wise, and also wasn't really winning rounds that cleanly...and so he knew that he had to fight at home to keep that 0 in tact.

      If he wasn't so concerned about that he would have fought Bute in Canada for big money, or rematched Froch at 175 for big money...I think that is pretty clear...there's just no way around that really...I give him credit for even facing Kov...but honestly after those cards in the first fight, it seems like something was up going in, and maybe Andre knew that all he had to do was go 12 rounds and he could get the W on the cards...so I wonder how much of a risk that even was.

      I thought he was beating Kessler before the stoppage but that win was a bit tainted as well...I felt he was getting outboxed again vs Kov before that stoppage, which unfortunately was controversial too...only good win with no controversy I have for him is over Froch, and I had that one 7-5 as two of the judges did...Andre was a level above Froch that night imo but he also gave away some rounds late.

      So yeah I think in a neutral type setting Andre would struggle to win a lot of fights, against Canelo included...I said before that I think if they fought in a neutral setting (location/refs/judges) it would probably be a close fight that was not too entertaining...they are both counter punchers and you could end up with a boring fight like Lara-Canelo, except with not as much movement from Lara/Ward and maybe even less action.
      Well put. I saw Ward come up. His knocks are he was often partime and hometown. Got the comeback bias vs Kovalev. Got credit for not getting stopped while Kovalev got ripped for not stopping him. Not sure what to make of rematch, though he was prolly winning. I wish he would comeback to fight Canelo. He’d get so much extra credit just because we don’t expect it. I mean it could change his whole narrative. Sigh. Beterbiev!!!

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      • Madison Boxing
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        #113
        Let's be real prime ward is levels above canelo.

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        • ReggieKray
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          #114
          Originally posted by Johnny_Roa
          Yeaaaaaa you dont know sht about boxing
          Join date: june 2019 LMAO. MY BAD
          LOL, that's the best you can come up with...The fact is that you can't erase Ward getting knocked down with Kovalev’s palm and you also have no rebuttal.

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          • toners3
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            #115
            Knfo

            Ward would get KO’d inside three rounds... he knows he’s in trouble fighting Canelo. 16 ko’s? A fly would bother Canelo more and ward knows it

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            • QballLobo
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              #116
              Ward ducking Cash Cow Canelo confirmed.

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              • HeadShots
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                #117
                "I"m not fighting GGG at 168"

                "I'm not fighting Canelo for 20 million when Im younger than GGG and Kovalev."


                official disgraceful duck.

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                • JakeTheBoxer
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                  #118
                  Why you guys keep talking about retired fighter? there are many active options for Canelo.

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                  • dannnnn
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                    #119
                    Originally posted by BoZz
                    His father is Irish American his mother is African American, so you can call him African American too...he's mixed yes but he sure isn't white...is he?
                    He's mixed race. How difficult is that to understand? When have you ever seen anybody who's mixed race with a skin complexion that is purely white? Of course he has darker skin than a caucasion, he's half black ffs. Half being the operative word.

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                    • lopetego
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                      #120
                      QUACK QUACK!

                      Ward is ducking the ginger

                      it is to be expected, he knows he won't get away with his dirty ass fouling tactics against the cash cow of boxing

                      he would have to beat Canelo in a clean way, no fouls, no headbutts, no punching balls, no clinchfests, etc...and without having biased venue, referee and judges on his side, as he always does

                      that's a no-no for the dirty ass diva that is Ward

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