Clenbuterol doesn't do nothing

[Thuglife Nelo]

I am taking their word for it.

They're saying it could be meat contamination.

Who is ''they?'' What source are you citing? Where are you getting ''could?''

[Citizen Koba]

Who is ''they?'' What source are you citing? Where are you getting ''could?''

'Consistent with' basically means 'could be'. Doesn't mean 'is' doesn't mean 'proves'. Just means the available evidence doesn't disprove something.

That's all I've been saying all along. Just ain't good enough for some of you dudes though is it?

The 'they' is anyone who said canelo's results were consistent with meat contamination, though specifically I was referencing your post:

so if I'm using verbiage from the science field, you know the same people that work Olympic testing, then take their word for it.

[Thuglife Nelo]

'Consistent with' basically means 'could be'. Doesn't mean 'is' doesn't mean 'proves'. Just means the available evidence doesn't disprove something.

That's all I've been saying all along. Just ain't good enough for some of you dudes though is it?

The 'they' is anyone who said canelo's results were consistent with meat contamination, though specifically I was referencing your post:

“As Daniel Eichner, director of SMRTL, the Wada-accredited lab that conducted the tests stated in his letter (on Monday): ‘These values are all within the range of what is expected from meat contamination’. Upon receiving this information, Golden Boy immediately notified the Nevada State Athletic Commission and Golovkin’s promoter, Tom Loeffler.”

So what are the EXPECTED ranges of actual Clen users in the real world, be it body builders...I assure you the lab experts can see varying results for how the body breaks down different types of use let alone the amounts. Erik Morales' case didn't have trace amounts disclosed. Guess which fighter had trace amounts and was ruled meat contamination? Francisco Vargas.

[Citizen Koba]

“As Daniel Eichner, director of SMRTL, the Wada-accredited lab that conducted the tests stated in his letter (on Monday): ‘These values are all within the range of what is expected from meat contamination’. Upon receiving this information, Golden Boy immediately notified the Nevada State Athletic Commission and Golovkin’s promoter, Tom Loeffler.”

So what are the EXPECTED ranges of actual Clen users in the real world, be it body builders...I assure you the lab experts can see varying results for how the body breaks down different types of use let alone the amounts. Erik Morales' case didn't have trace amounts disclosed. Guess which fighter had trace amounts and was ruled meat contamination? Francisco Vargas.

And I assure you that if the lab experts can do as you say they ain't told anyone and ain't published any research about it... and I know how to look for that ish. Usually you can find an abstract or something even if the paper is hideen behind a paywall. Clen doesn't produce detectable matabolites, man. You can't do a metabolite to precursor ratio to establish when the Clen was taken. You put Clen in you piss Clen out... that's why we can't get a definitive answer to this thing.

And yeah. All the bolded section says is exactly what we've already established. That Canelo's clenbuterol results were consistent with meat contamination. What isn't said here - or pretty much anywhere else (I guess because they are being rightly careful not to imply guilt), is that any result that is consistent with meat contamination is also consistent with PED abuse.

If you wait long enough no matter how much Clen you put in your systen you'll end up with a urinary concentration that is 'consistent with meat contamination'.

[Thuglife Nelo]

And I assure you that if the lab experts can do as you say they ain't told anyone and ain't published any research about it... and I know how to look for that ish. Usually you can find an abstract or something even if the paper is hideen behind a paywall. Clen doesn't produce detectable matabolites, man. You can't do a metabolite to precursor ratio to establish when the Clen was taken. You put Clen in you piss Clen out... that's why we can't get a definitive answer to this thing.

And yeah. All the bolded section says is exactly what we've already established. That Canelo's clenbuterol results were consistent with meat contamination. What isn't said here - or pretty much anywhere else (I guess because they are being rightly careful not to imply guilt), is that any result that is consistent with meat contamination is also consistent with PED abuse.

If you wait long enough no matter how much Clen you put in your systen you'll end up with a urinary concentration that is 'consistent with meat contamination'.

the Clen talk has exhausted me bruh. a bit boring tbh. believe what you want.

[Citizen Koba]

the Clen talk has exhausted me bruh. a bit boring tbh. believe what you want.

It's alright, man, I was just about ready to throw in the towel myself... heading for some RSI here.

[NC Uppercut]

A supercharger doesn't keep the engine cool. A supercharger compresses air, increasing air intake to the engine and thus optimizing the combustion rate. This increased intake and optimization is similar to the effect of clenbuterol, and how it helps respiration. I'd say it's a pretty spot on analogy.

We're not talking about a water pump.

Ice your engine bro! We differ about the analogy, carry on

[NC Uppercut]

It's alright, man, I was just about ready to throw in the towel myself... heading for some RSI here.

Lmao!!!!! Catch a deep breath! Some people just chose not to understand.

[NC Uppercut]

the Clen talk has exhausted me bruh. a bit boring tbh. believe what you want.

Hey man, you have pretty good brakes! I can smell the rubber from over here..

[Citizen Koba]

Lmao!!!!! Catch a deep breath! Some people just chose not to understand.

Ha ha man, that shit was grueling. What was that? 2 or 3 hours of my life just to defend a position of 'we don't know for sure', who woulda thought that'd be so problematic for some dudes? Only on NSB, man.

Damn thing was I'd actually sat down to update the Pick Em leaderboard when I got pulled into all this silliness, but I reckon I still might be able to find time before tonight.

Hope you're doing well, man.