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  • Robi13
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    #11
    Originally posted by Hnnnggg
    We can’t take their word for it. I’m assuming because trace amounts were discovered, the assay was at the very least semi quantitative... but who establishes the range that is considered trace and how much can that amount be attributed to an actual the****utic effect? We run immunoassays in my lab that output values based on absorbance measurements that are converted into a normalized signal. These numbers are flagged when exceeding a cutoff range (aka detected a specific metabolite).

    The other day a provider was asking me why the values were above zero but the results were negative and what that meant from a the****utic point of view (non compliance, partial dosage, etc). The truth is that the reagent manufacturer and the instrument manufacturer set their own cutoff values and because of the nature of the test metabolite concentration is not linearly correlated to the result.

    So in other words unless this is a gas chromatography (or some other quantitative assay) and some research entity (epidemiological or just scientific) has conducted a large scale study on clenbuterol and it’s positive effect on performance in athletes, somehow establish a range of measured doses that does not cause a positive effect AND measure metabolite concentration at varying lengths of metabolism AND then establish an acceptable metabolite range. This is all bull**** (apologies for the previous run on sentence)
    So if there isn’t a way to figure out what’s constituted as an amount that is actually performing enhancing, you can’t point your finger and say they cheated... it’s all bs I agree however right now, the rules are the rules and wether you like them or not, they were classified as trace amts and therefore non performing enhancing.

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    • El_Mero
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      #12
      Caneloweight, now the Clenelo rule.

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      • LA_2_Vegas
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        #13
        Another one for the books boys, nothing to see here.

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        • NC Uppercut
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          #14
          Originally posted by Robi13
          Or maybe they are normal people who like to eat meat? The phuck???
          Well then don’t box professionally! It’s that simple!

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          • Robi13
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            #15
            Originally posted by NC Uppercut
            Well then don’t box professionally! It’s that simple!
            Lmao, it’s not that simple. They gave to make money for there family.. you know? Make a living line any normal being.. they are good at boxing and like to eat meat.. you don’t like it? Stop watching boxing it’s that simple

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            • NC Uppercut
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              #16
              Originally posted by Robi13
              Lmao, it’s not that simple. They gave to make money for there family.. you know? Make a living line any normal being.. they are good at boxing and like to eat meat.. you don’t like it? Stop watching boxing it’s that simple
              We don’t just “watch” boxing, we are involved. You say they have to make money; is staying away from local cattle that big of a deal once they have made some money? I mean seeing as these are good boxers who have knowledge of the rules for them to make good money now.

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              • Robi13
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                #17
                Originally posted by NC Uppercut
                We don’t just “watch” boxing, we are involved. You say they have to make money; is staying away from local cattle that big of a deal once they have made some money? I mean seeing as these are good boxers who have knowledge of the rules for them to make good money now.
                I get it, it shouldn’t be too hard to stay away from meat but .. us Mexicans love beef, it’s not as simple as you think. Carne asada, I’m sure you’ve heard of that, it’s a staple on every party which parties happen every weekend sometimes multiple times a week. So it’s not as simple as not eating the beef, their lifestyle revolves around family and get togethers and that involves food and beef is in tamales, tacos, burritos, bbq’s, enchiladas, basically anything and everything and don’t matter if it’s breakfast lunch or dinner or a snack like beef jerky... it’s not that easy brotha... I get that you need to be responsible and professional but it’s tough. Have you ever been on a diet, have you ever broken your diet? I think 99.9 people that go on a diet end up breaking it... perfect example

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                • Yodpayak
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                  #18
                  I am not surprised wbc mafia protects their boys. Taking drugs in taco form is still taking drugs. Martinez clearly eats so much of this meat.

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                  • Corelone
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                    #19
                    Test everybody, momma, sister, brother, trainer. Back trace it to the source, or is it easier, and safer, to ignore it? Asking for a friend.

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                    • Corelone
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                      #20
                      In the old world mafia, I hear, the produce is the best, don't mess with their olive oil. Any dilution, pollution, or substition and somebody sleeps with the fishes. They don't like hurting the customers. These guys are trying to kill everybody, if this is what they're doing.

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