Vivian Harris

[mic573]

Jab, circle the ring, show good defense.

He didn't have to do any of that though. Johnston couldn't hurt him and he was hurting Johnston everytime he threw the righthand. He couldn't miss with it. Harris was jabbing until he dropped Johnston and then he went for the KO.

Last night I thought Johnston stunned him a bit but when I watched the replay this morning Harris wasn't stunned even though he was taking punches. Seconds after that he busted Johnston up with two big righthands.

[oldgringo]

I don't know why everyone is saying Harris only has a righthand. Everytime he threw the righthand he either hurt or dropped Johnston. Harris was busting Johnston up with that righthand.

So what else was he supposed to use?

He has no other redeeming qualities in my opinion. He doesn't have good defense, he fights stiff & straight up, he doesn't have good footwork, his handspeed is pretty good, he is poorly conditioned, and he isn't intelligent in the least. I call Harris unintelligent because he has shown 2 fights in a row that he gets over-excited and starts using too much energy. He also fails to understand his unreal height advantage and jumps into slugging matches with people.

Hatton and Cotto would eat this boy up.

[restless_438]

yeah, i have to say, i wasn't "overly" impressed with Harris' performance last night.. not horrible, but i'm not sure how he'd manage with the top tier in the welterweight division (i.e. Hatton, Margarito, Cotto)

[oldgringo]

I feel like he gave a good performance last night, but he did things (and has done things in the past) in that fight that would get him absolutely murdered by a Hatton/Castillo/Cotto type of fighter.

I don't feel like it's fair to Hatton to use the Collazo fight as a indication that HArris would be able to hurt and beat him.

-Collazo is a very physically strong welterweight. He was able to hold his own with Ricky in clinches, where Hatton usually like to rough-house his opponents. Harris is a stick figure, Hatton would undoubtedly be stronger that Harris.

-Collazo is a pretty slick fighter as we were all able to see. He hit HAtton steadily with hard power shots all night and it wasn't until the final round that he actually cracked Hattons chin. Harris wouldn't have the stamina to throw heat like that with Ricky, especially after having his slender body worked over.

-Harris stands straight up and has RECENTLY shown a flaw in his game in that he gets over-excited or over-anxious or whatever it is. If he gets into a slugging match with a guy like Ricky he won't last long.

If Harris shows in his future bouts that he could settle down and maintain a steady pace over 12 I might change my opinion of him. I just can't see surviving against a top guy with the way he operates presently.

[mic573]

He has no other redeeming qualities in my opinion. He doesn't have good defense, he fights stiff & straight up, he doesn't have good footwork, his handspeed is pretty good, he is poorly conditioned, and he isn't intelligent in the least. I call Harris unintelligent because he has shown 2 fights in a row that he gets over-excited and starts using too much energy. He also fails to understand his unreal height advantage and jumps into slugging matches with people.

Hatton and Cotto would eat this boy up.

That's one thing I always said about Harris. He is easily taken out of his gameplan and goes to war with fighters.

I think Cotto and Hatton would beat him but they have to get by that power to do it. Hatton has shown a pretty good chin but Cotto with his dehydrated body and somewhat shakey chin will have some problems if Harris lands something big.

[Sir_Jose]

will get worked by any of the top 140/147 pounders if and when he steps up. I can't believe there are people out there thinking he could deal with Hatton or Cotto. Kid has a nice, long right hand but that's about all. I cannot see him beating guys like Castillo, Hatton, Lazcano, etc. He was on his way to overexerting himself again but Johnston is too hittable these days and didn't have the power to trouble Viv.

He also gave one of the most insanely annoying post-fight ints I've seen in awhile. Nobody cares about his team.

Why couldn't he deal with Hatton? Whats Hatton done to make himself seem so good? Hell the guy was out on his feet against Collazo for Christ sakes.

and Cotto? Cotto was out on his feet against Ricardo Torres.

Did you just say Lazcano? Do you watch Boxing?

Sorry but Cotto and Hatton are not that good.

Yes Castillo hands him his ass.

[oldgringo]

Why couldn't he deal with Hatton? Whats Hatton done to make himself seem so good? Hell the guy was out on his feet against Collazo for Christ sakes.

and Cotto? Cotto was out on his feet against Ricardo Torres.

Did you just say Lazcano? Do you watch Boxing?

Sorry but Cotto and Hatton are not that good.

Yes Castillo hands him his ass.

And Vivian Harris IS that good?

You just knocked Hatton and Cotto without really saying anything at all. Did you have a point or what?

Both Cotto and Hatton are better than this guy simple as.

[oldgringo]

That's one thing I always said about Harris. He is easily taken out of his gameplan and goes to war with fighters.

I think Cotto and Hatton would beat him but they have to get by that power to do it. Hatton has shown a pretty good chin but Cotto with his dehydrated body and somewhat shakey chin will have some problems if Harris lands something big.

That's the thing, a Cotto fight is pretty much out the window seeing as how he'll be moving up to 147.

I could be wrong about Harris, but I have never seen what was special about him. He's seems to be pretty skilled, has physical attributes that play to his favor, and has pretty good power. He could prove me wrong, but these setbacks against C+ level fighters aren't helping his case.

[Sir_Jose]

And Vivian Harris IS that good?

You just knocked Hatton and Cotto without really saying anything at all. Did you have a point or what?

Both Cotto and Hatton are better than this guy simple as.

Honestly I would put them all on the same level with Harris being the best of the 3.

Im flat out lost when people start talking up Hatton. The guy is a Mini John Ruiz and nothing more, He's been dropped and shaken by non power punchers.

Miguel Cotto is what almost 30 fights into his pro career and has yet to step up to world class comp. There is a reason Top Rank has held him back do long. There have been rumors for years about Cotto having a shaky chin and being rocked in the gym then he goes out and has a life and death struggle with Torres who is a C level fighter at best.

Why dod you think those guys are so much better? because there bigger names?

please dont bring up Maussa that was a pure asswhooping until Harris gassed dont try and act like Maussa did something.

[Smokin']

Vivian Harris reminds me of his stablemate Zab Judah. These fool ass New Yorker's don't fight for legacy, none of that but they simply fight for pride. I really picture these cats fighting not thinking about winning but trying to impress there ****in buddies in the stands.

I do agree with your post. His balance isn't great and he's too wild in there. I've seen him throw right hooks off-balance from the orthodox position ... a no-no if you want to compete with the top dogs.