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  • Originally posted by Death_Adder View Post
    You're the only poser on here. You make ridiculous claims and constantly contradict yourself. You can't back anything up with facts and don't know **** about anything in the world of boxing.

    You're a waste of time you idiot.

    All I asked you was to name me one boxer who's accomplishing more than Canelo right now and you can't. JUST. ONE. NAME.
    You don't know what the ***** you're talking about dude. You keep changing the goalposts. You say which boxer is taking more risks than Canelo. I point out the people who have fought in those tournaments. These guys are willingly putting their 0's on the line without knowing who they will face in the next round. Canelo would never ever put himself in that kind of position.
    Last edited by yankees7448; 11-05-2019, 05:01 PM.

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    • Originally posted by Daniel82tx View Post

      some could argue kovalev technically was undefeated but I wont go that far kovalev
      No one could make that argument with a straight face so I don't even know why you went so far as to try to make it.
      was not the same krusher as prior to ward 2 fight but was still a big threat to canelo who had to fight very cautiously in order to not get caught with a huge shot that could have slept the naturally smaller guy.

      Give canelo credit even if you hate him it was a calculated risk but still a risk.
      Of course it wasn't a fight without risks. Kovalev was the bigger and more powerful guy. But his lack of speed (both foot and hand) and his weakness on the inside made him a very manageable risk. Its all about getting past the jab and Canelo had good practice with that from his 24 rounds with GGG.

      And you do know charlo a pbc fighter that al haymon will not allow to fight on DAZN so stop talking about charlo who was handed the WBC 60 title without fighting anybody.
      There is no problem that money wouldn't solve. You better believe Charlo would have been allowed to go over if he was getting that 12 million dollar pay day.

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      • Originally posted by Daniel82tx View Post
        Canelo pretty much unified 60...was about to go after andrade but IBF stripped him forcing him to fight devrychenko who priced himself out wanting 15m....dont forget about that part
        First of all, I am going to need some non-Golden Girl source to justify that $15 million dollar demand.

        Secondly, he was aiming for a unification with Andrade but getting stripped of the IBF belt forced him to jump up 2 weight classes to fight Kovalev instead?

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        • Originally posted by yankees7448 View Post
          First of all, I am going to need some non-Golden Girl source to justify that $15 million dollar demand.

          Secondly, he was aiming for a unification with Andrade but getting stripped of the IBF belt forced him to jump up 2 weight classes to fight Kovalev instead?
          Are you that thick? Obviously he means that nelo still wouldn't be considered unified by you haters regardless of what he does because Derev Literally priced himself out & took the easiest fight of the 2(ggg) because his promoter Di bella is in bed with IBF & he knew nelo would be stripped for canceling purse bid to negotiate in good faith & the minute they didn't agree to terms canelo was automatically stripped (same thing ggg did to a tee with wbc when he knew he would get a free belt,get to face no hopers like brook while heightening his profile by claiming nelo ducked him & would ultimately make him more in the long run while his stans(you) absolve him of blame for dragging up Brook).

          That's not a golden boy source thats derevs own words that he wasn't going to fight Canelo for less than 5 million over what ggg offers.(because he said it didn't matter & because he knew Canelo wanted fighter of the decade & only beating Kovalev would win him FOTD anyways,aka canelo was chasing greatness because only beating Kovalev at the time would lock fotd down & he wasn't going to gift Derev some of his purse either)

          So aka Nelo was negotiating with several fighters as usual, because they all think they should make 15 mil each just for fighting Canelo & he nevers sure who won't price themselves out like Derev did.

          And I wrote all this not for you but others saying the same
          Last edited by kushking; 11-05-2019, 05:50 PM.

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          • Originally posted by kushking View Post
            Are you that thick?
            Well I think so but we can ask your mom for her unbiased opinion.

            Obviously he means that nelo still wouldn't be considered unified by you haters
            Then why not pursue the fight with Andrade then and circle back for the IBF afterwards.

            regardless of what he does because Derev Literally priced himself out & took the easiest fight of the 2(ggg) because his promoter Di bella is in bed with IBF & he knew nelo would be stripped for canceling purse bid to negotiate in good faith & the minute they didn't agree to terms canelo was automatically stripped
            I've also heard that Dibella was the shooter on the grassy knoll.

            That's not a golden boy source thats derevs own words that he wasn't going to fight Canelo for less than 5 million over what ggg offers.
            Source?


            aka canelo was chasing greatness because only beating Kovalev at the time would lock fotd down & he wasn't going to gift Derev some of his purse either)
            Chasing greatness my arse. He's running away from meaningful challenges to beat Kovalev while he still had a title. Kovalev was going to lose his belt sooner rather than later.
            So aka Nelo was negotiating with several fighters as usual, because they all think they should make 15 mil each just for fighting Canelo & he nevers sure who won't price themselves out like Derev did.

            And I wrote all this not for you but others saying the same
            You wrote this because you're pissed off that you someone is calling out Canelo for being a cherry picking *****.

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            • Originally posted by kushking View Post
              Exactly right & true. Its farcical the knots cvnts weave.

              He will eternally duck & dodge the point as he refuses to admit that maybe just maybe,hes very biased towards certain fighters(1 in particular)& therefore is allowing that bias to blind him. I've admitted I was wrong many times on this site because I am not a petty loser like some people.

              But the thing is that almost everyone on here refuses to admit when their arguments make no sense when you use the same criteria for ranking/judging every fighter.

              If people were honest with whatever standard they supposedly have to rate fighters its obvious that at this exact moment p4p at any weight class nobody compares to the moment Canelo is having,& the run hes currently on of fighting much bigger guys that were all champions in new weightclass even, regardless if kov supposedly was over the hill,still a hofer & a champion that when Canelo signed vs him was the consensus #1 lhw champ,& most ppl were saying the Nail would ko Beterbieve(I said Beterbieve would ko the rest at lhw;that was before now because Nelo will beat Beterbieve now I am confident of this & I said beforehand that kov would throw tons more punches than Nelo & was very dangerous for Nelo still,& the same haters now discrediting that win were saying kov was winning or some bs(Dan Rapheal said kov was way ahead)

              He admits he's a hypocrite. Certain boxers can go their entire careers and not take on any serious challenges, and its ok, but Canelo, oh no, he better be fighting everyone every month, or else he's a fraud.

              He's a waste of time.

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              • Originally posted by yankees7448 View Post
                You don't know what the ***** you're talking about dude. You keep changing the goalposts. You say which boxer is taking more risks than Canelo. I point out the people who have fought in those tournaments. These guys are willingly putting their 0's on the line without knowing who they will face in the next round. Canelo would never ever put himself in that kind of position.
                Are you that ****** or are you pretending to be? Not knowing who they're going to be facing? You that ****** boy? Are they not in brackets? Are they not given a couple of months to prepare for the next opponent?

                Idiot, they're not having a one night tournament like the old UFC days where they fought multiple opponents in one night. Thats taking a risk.

                They're given months to prepare. That Tournament started in October of last year.

                And besides, when Nonito Donaire is in a final of a tournament, guess what idiot, that means the competition was weak as fück.

                So again, name me one person thats taking more risks than Canelo.

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                • Originally posted by kushking View Post
                  Are you that thick? Obviously he means that nelo still wouldn't be considered unified by you haters regardless of what he does because Derev Literally priced himself out & took the easiest fight of the 2(ggg) because his promoter Di bella is in bed with IBF & he knew nelo would be stripped for canceling purse bid to negotiate in good faith & the minute they didn't agree to terms canelo was automatically stripped (same thing ggg did to a tee with wbc when he knew he would get a free belt,get to face no hopers like brook while heightening his profile by claiming nelo ducked him & would ultimately make him more in the long run while his stans(you) absolve him of blame for dragging up Brook).

                  That's not a golden boy source thats derevs own words that he wasn't going to fight Canelo for less than 5 million over what ggg offers.(because he said it didn't matter & because he knew Canelo wanted fighter of the decade & only beating Kovalev would win him FOTD anyways,aka canelo was chasing greatness because only beating Kovalev at the time would lock fotd down & he wasn't going to gift Derev some of his purse either)

                  So aka Nelo was negotiating with several fighters as usual, because they all think they should make 15 mil each just for fighting Canelo & he nevers sure who won't price themselves out like Derev did.

                  And I wrote all this not for you but others saying the same
                  Damn solid response. That's exactly what I was trying to explain that canelo was going for that 4th belt with andrade but as soon as IBF cowardly stripped him (10 days after winning the belt they wanted nelo to pretty much go to purse bid with devrychenko) dude prices himself out nelo is now down to 2 belts so he said eff this I'm moving up since nobody else in this division has the balls to go for greatness I will....keep in mind nelo started at 140lbs...Henry Armstrong shi$$

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                  • Originally posted by Death_Adder View Post
                    Are you that ****** or are you pretending to be? Not knowing who they're going to be facing? You that ****** boy? Are they not in brackets? Are they not given a couple of months to prepare for the next opponent?
                    Goddamn you're a ****** mother*****er. They don't know who they are fighting because it all depends upon who wins the other fights each and every round of the tournament.

                    Holy **** balls. You cannot be this ****ing dense.

                    So again, name me one person thats taking more risks than Canelo.
                    Anyone and everyone who agrees to fight in those tournaments jackoff. That's 3 groups of 8 this year alone.

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                    • Originally posted by Daniel82tx View Post
                      Same **** you haters said about ggg oh canelo will never move up and fight him...oh he will not rematch him wrong again....oh then next boogeyman jacobs oh canelo wont face a big middleweight that is still in his prime wrong again...excuses and more excuses you guys will never be happy
                      He ducked GGG and waited for him to age before agreeing to fight him at 35 years old. The 30 year old version of Golovkin that destroyed WBC number 1 Proska on his American debut would've 100% knocked out Canelo - thats not even up for debate!

                      Jacobs was not in his prime when he fought Canelo... don't know where you got that from. Sulecki put hands on him in their fight hitting him with bombs and its argusble that Derevyanchenko should've got the decision. Also by the time Jacobs and Canelo fought Jacobs was already struggling to make the 160lb middleweight limit hence why hes now campaigning at 168lbs.

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