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  • He isn't even considered a big MW by any stretch. There are other MWs like Jermall who are bigger than him. Canelo is capable of making 160 ibs. He just don't want the chore of maintaining his weight by not eating whatever he wants to, unlike when he fought at a higher weight. I can see his logic, but if he is disciplined, he could definitely make 160 ibs as he is not that big to begin with.

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    • Canelo should never go back to MW, unless he wants to "Roy Jones" himself

      there are good fights for him at 168, if he can get past Callum Smith he could become the SMW kingpin

      not a good idea to stay at 175 either, he's too much of a midget for the top guys there

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      • Originally posted by yankees7448 View Post
        When I first started following Canelo I totally did not expect him to fight Kovalev let alone KO him.




        As long as there is one major belt still held by someone else then he did not unify the division.









        He did get gifted the WBC franchise title (whatever TF that means) which allowed him to avoid a mandatory fight with Charlo.
        You mean he was given franchise belt because hes actually trying to hold belts in multiple weight classes & Charlo has done nothing but be gifted a fake trinket by beating 1 legged Heiland & by being gifted a wide decision vs Korobov. You also contradicted yourself because loma is not "going to be unified unlike canelo" as you erroneously claimed but in fact he was gifted a franchise belt for doing nothing that resembles the supposed criteria such as moving up to higher divisions,& in fact is actually planning on moving down in weight while already saying he won't fight Haney,the same Haney Arum/Loma bribed the WBC to break rules to avoid while feeding him weak Campbell who was not at all the rightful #1 contender but the weakest link by far instead of Haney.
        It isn't a fair comparison because no one would ever pull that "Let me take care of my side of the street first" nonsense with Canelo. It doesn't matter what side of the street Canelo is on people will move heaven and earth to try and get that fight. Crawford doesn't have that cache.
        And your pathetic excuse for giving Crawford a lifetime bum fight pass is that hes supposedly being ducked(complete bs,hes unwilling to sacrifice because hes happy fighting jobbers like Con.Its not a fair comparison to compare fighters like Crawford & his excuses of ducking the best against a fighter actually fighting almost nothing but champs.
        Depending upon how you choose to consider the World Series of Boxing Loma won his first title either in his 9th fight or his 3rd. Winning belts in 3 division and on the verge of unifying the 135 pound division by his 16th (or 20th depending upon WSoF) pro bout is quite impressive.
        And loma unifying weak/ vacant belts in 3 divisions is supposedly impressive because he chose to fight kids til age 26 but Nelo actually fighting all the biggest best near/above his weight classes from the age way before Loma stopped fighting kids is somehow not impressive to you?(nelos 3 yrs older than lomas 1st pro fight) And nelo has held many more belts in 4 divisions (even wba regular amounts to easily as valid as loma getting beat by Salido then getting to fight for belt anyways.

        And loma won several of his belts off completely overmatced opponents & moved up in divisions that are stepping stone divisions unlike nelo in divisions its unheard of,hes never beaten anyone near canelos resume (has tons of excuses why though despite ducking Haney who would take whatever hes given & wants smoke now)
        And to top it off Haney would be the marquee name lomas resume needs,& loma can't actually become unified without fighting Haney,funny how your standards of (not unified if theres still 1 belt left) don't apply to loma.

        You are a colossal hypocrite that does mental gymnastics & can't even see how hypocritical your bs standards are.
        Last edited by kushking; 11-05-2019, 12:19 PM.

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        • Originally posted by kushking View Post
          You mean he was given franchise belt because hes actually trying to hold belts in multiple weight classes & Charlo has done nothing
          So you're ok with him being gifted a meaningless franchise belt and ducking a mandatory yet I am the hypocrite.

          loma is not "going to be unified unlike canelo" as you erroneously claimed but in fact he was gifted a franchise belt for doing nothing that resembles the supposed criteria such as moving up to higher divisions,& in fact is actually planning on moving down in weight while already saying he won't fight Haney,the same Haney Arum/Loma bribed the WBC to break rules to avoid while feeding him weak Campbell who was not at all the rightful #1 contender but the weakest link by far instead of Haney.
          Loma beats the winner of Commey/Lopez then he has all 4 major belts in the division. Canelo has never done that.

          And your pathetic excuse for giving Crawford a lifetime bum fight pass is that hes supposedly being ducked(complete bs,hes unwilling to sacrifice because hes happy fighting jobbers like Con.Its not a fair comparison to compare fighters like Crawford & his excuses of ducking the best against a fighter actually fighting almost nothing but champs.
          Blah blah blah. You're ok with Canelo picking and choosing his opponents and ducking fighters. Stop rambling and just say it openly. It would save you time typing and me time from reading rambling barely coherent nonsense.

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          • Originally posted by Death_Adder View Post
            You're a dumbass. Someone with a Gayweather sig shouldn't be talking about Canelo not taking risks.

            Exactly who in boxing RIGHT NOW is taking more risks than Canelo? List them.
            Anyone who signs up for the super 6 tournaments are taking more risks than Canelo. Anyone who is trying to unify and hold belts are taking more risks than Canelo.

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            • Originally posted by yankees7448 View Post
              Anyone who signs up for the super 6 tournaments are taking more risks than Canelo. Anyone who is trying to unify and hold belts are taking more risks than Canelo.
              Name specific people moron.

              Are there Super Six Middleweight tournaments that are going on?

              Who's unifying? TODAY, who is in the process of unifying in upcoming bouts?

              Hey moron, just this past May Canelo unified the IBF, WBC and WBA belts when he fought Jacobs.

              Canelo is holding belts in four different weight classes.

              Name ONE person right now who's holding as many belts as Canelo.

              And I'll ask again name ONE person who's taking more risks than Canelo. Don't be vague, idiot, NAME THEM.

              I swear Canelo haters are the most moronic motherfuckers out there.

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              • Originally posted by yankees7448 View Post
                So you're ok with him being gifted a meaningless franchise belt and ducking a mandatory yet I am the hypocrite.
                Loma beats the winner of Commey/Lopez then he has all 4 major belts in the division. Canelo has never done that.
                You just discredited Canelos much more worthy franchise belt(same belt loma has that you said before means nelo can't unify til he fights Charlo(before loma was given 1).)And you just said Canelo used it to duck Charlo,yet your biased self sees no problem with Loma paying the wbc to let him jump the line(against the wbc rules) to fight the far weaker fighter than Haney whom was going to be fighting for the wbc belt by working his way up the rankings & is so provably better than Campbell that even though Loma faced Campbell for the vacant wbc & therefore supposedly faced #1 challenger(vacant wbc are automatically between#1/#2 by fact that 2 fighters are fighting for it)yet wbc gave Haney the full WBC anyways instead of Campbell who loma beat(because Haney can sue otherwise & Campbell knows hes B level & probably won't sue)

                Blah blah blah. You're ok with Canelo picking and choosing his opponents and ducking fighters. Stop rambling and just say it openly. It would save you time typing and me time from reading rambling barely coherent nonsense.
                You are too biased to even realize how hypocritical your nonsensical criteria for rating fighters is.

                You're actually acting like Crawford & Loma haven't "picked & choose cherries" way more often even going as far as loma jumping to 135 bribing wbc, planning on ducking Haney then jumping back down to 130 where he can beat up on smaller guys. Crawford vacated his belts without defending any of them,& he moved up to fight a string of fighters summed up by Horn being the best name out of all of them skillwise when he fought them. He fought a guy who got shot & doesn't have full use of his leg ffs,he then fought a complete conjob jobber like con after him being dropped repeatedly by complete D levels

                I thought you would maybe be willing to be a grown up & actually be willing to admit that you were wrong for once on a site debating is the norm. But as usual nobody is willing to see how hypocritically biased the standards they rate fighters are.
                Last edited by kushking; 11-05-2019, 01:14 PM.

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                • Originally posted by Death_Adder View Post
                  Name specific people moron.
                  Do your own research lazy mofo.


                  Hey moron, just this past May Canelo unified the IBF, WBC and WBA belts when he fought Jacobs.
                  But he refused to go for the WBO like a *****.


                  Canelo is holding belts in four different weight classes.
                  Name ONE person right now who's holding as many belts as Canelo.
                  He's doing that by fighting weak champions. He didn't fight the real WBA champ at super middleweight butt boy. He fought the second best British fighter who held a title for the sanctioning body at the time.

                  And I'll ask again name ONE person who's taking more risks than Canelo. Don't be vague, idiot, NAME THEM.
                  I already told you *****. Don't be lazy.

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                  • Originally posted by yankees7448 View Post
                    Do your own research lazy mofo.

                    But he refused to go for the WBO like a *****.

                    Canelo is holding belts in four different weight classes.

                    He's doing that by fighting weak champions. He didn't fight the real WBA champ at super middleweight butt boy. He fought the second best British fighter who held a title for the sanctioning body at the time.

                    I already told you *****. Don't be lazy.
                    Name them idiot. Back up your claims. You're taking all this shit, name someone that's taking more risks than Canelo. ONE NAME. Back it up hoe.

                    Andrade poses no risk at all. Who has he beaten to be considered a worthy challenger? List his accomplishments.

                    Kovalev is a better opponent that the last couple of bums Lomachenko and Crawford have faced, better than Donaire who Naoya is facing.

                    It's not about me being lazy, it's about YOU backing up your claims.
                    Last edited by Death_Adder; 11-05-2019, 01:09 PM.

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                    • Originally posted by kushking View Post

                      its also pitiful to do the childish blabla thing because my pts are completely true.
                      It was completely justified because of your childlike inability to write in something that remotely resembles full sentences.
                      You just discredited Canelos much more worthy franchise belt
                      He was given the franchise belt in order to have a layer of protection between himself and Charlo. Its bull*****. The franchise belt situation is all bull**** even with Loma. But as long as Loma fights quality guys (looks like he'll be facing the Commey/Lopez winner next) I am ok with it. That isn't what Canelo is doing because Canelo is a *****.

                      yet your biased self sees no problem with Loma paying the wbc to let him jump the line(against the wbc rules) to fight the far weaker fighter than Haney whom was going to be fighting for the wbc belt
                      First of all, I do have a problem with Haney not getting a shot at Loma or the vacant belt. I think if he was going to get screwed out of a shot for the vacant belt he should still be allowed to have the mandatory position. Hopefully, Loma will give him a chance. But don't pull that bull***** as if I am ok with him getting screwed. I am not you lying f u c k e r. Secondly, Luke Campbell was ranked higher in the WBC rankings than Haney at the time so if Loma was going to get the shot its right that Campbell should get the shot before Haney.
                      You are too biased to even realize how farcically hypocritical your nonsensical criteria for rating fighters is.
                      I am not rating anyone. I am calling Canelo a b!tch for choosing to fight weak champions in higher weight classes rather than fight Jermall Charlo. Apparently you're pissy about Devan Haney getting screwed out of a shot at Loma but you're ok with the comparatively more battle tested Charlo being screwed out of a fight with Canelo. At least Charlo has beaten former champions like Austin Trout and current champion Julian Williams. What current titlist has Haney beaten. Take your time thinking of an answer to that you hypocritical f u c k nut.

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