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Originally posted by Shadoww702 View PostWhy don’t Charlo and Andrade fight??? Didn’t Jacobs punk Charlo???
I wish ppl like you weren’t such hypocrites!!!
You admit Charlo and Andrade been same division forever and keep moving up but won’t fight each other??? Why don’t you call that ducking????
Charlo is ducking Andrade, Jacobs, and Derevyanchenko.
GGG is ducked Charlo and is currently ducking Andrade.
Saunders ducked Andrade.
Andrade isn't ducking anyone currently, but the first thing he did when he moved up was to duck Derevyanchenko, and ducked Charlo 160's brother two times and Lara three times before.
Canelo has shamelessly ducked Charlo at Middleweight and ducked him at junior Middleweight too, same thing he did with Andrade.
See, no hypocrisy, everyone is guilty, except for Jacobs and Derevyanchenko. Those guys will fight anyone.
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Originally posted by Shadoww702 View PostJacobs was a lesser fight then Charlo??? You saying Charlo beats Jacobs???
Charlo's problem isn't ability or skill, his problem is in his mindset. Guy is a pussie.
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Originally posted by yankees7448 View PostI don't bet for him to lose at all. I just want him to unify a division rather than continuously look for the oldest and or weakest available champion in another division.
You can't see that he basically unified middleweight except for 1 single meaningless belt,& unlike Crawford & Loma & especially ggg Nelo didn't get gifted vacant belts or beat unheralded no names for the belts,he beat Jacobs in his absolute top moment & prime as well as being the top middleweight besides ggg (ggg was on a self appointed 9 mo sabbatical & never contested gbp claims he wanted no parts of a cinco de mayo fight instead of Jacobs) & nelo beat ggg & Cotto which is why he was already technically lineal mw 3x over because he fought lineal cotto then ggg for what would be lineal all over because its #1 vs #2.(gggs never been Lineal & refused cw for cotto)
And when Canelo faced Ibf champ Jacobs he again faced the top mw which again would've meant he was the lineal. He held all except wbo Andrade has. Compare that to Crawford who won his belts off the likes of Indongo & Postol(decent wins but do you honestly think they are the gggs & Jacobs of 140?),& Crawford immediately vacated his belts to face who? Jeff the hornet Hornwho has Crawford faced since then? Nobodies & completely overmatched cherries like Khan.
Loma has decent wins over mostly unknown walters who wasn't p4p & didn't have any big win other than a badly overmatched & fading Donaire & had just drawn with C level Sosa & since he faced Loma he hasn't fought again. Thats still lomas best win along with Linares & Campbell imho. Who would you say linares & Campbell equate to on nelos resume? Imho they equate to Trout & cotto(difficulty wise because skillwise I think Trout/Cotto were at the time much better) neither of which are nelos best wins. Linares is a known glassjaw as much as khan. And Russell jr was just too small for Loma(honestly how can anyone see differently)& loma publicly plans on moving down in weight before fighting Haney(duck by definition)Last edited by kushking; 11-04-2019, 01:00 PM.
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Originally posted by j0zef View PostProbably a smart decision. yoyoing between weight divisions is never a smart idea. He doesn't have too many big fights at 160, and if any of the top dogs at 160 want him, they can come up to 168.
I have a feeling we'll see him against Benavidez sometime in next 12 months, and that's a fight that I'd love to see. Benavidez vs. Canelo would truly be "chasing greatness".
What I'm saying is, Jacobs punked Charlo and consistently called him out after that encounter, and Charlo went into witness protection programme. Then Canelo fought that same Jacons instead, the Jacobs that Charlo was terrified of.
Recently there was a YouTube interview where Charlo was asked about the fact Benevides called him out. Charlo didn't want to hear none of that, and acted as if Benevides doesn't deserve a shot at him (smh).
So what happened if Canelo goes down and fights Benevides, same Benevides Charlo is ducking?
Can anyone really advocate for Charlo at that point with a straight face when this guy clearly refuses to fight anyone with a pulse? Need I mention he recently also said that Andrade is a nobody who don't deserve a fight with him?
He uses these diva excuses to duck tough challenges but we are supposed to rally behind him against Canelo?
Granted Canelo is guilty of the same, but at the same time, Canelo is fighting WAY better comp while Charlo is content to fight a bunch of nobodies and make diva excuses not to fight strong competition or just plain run into witness protection when a fighter directly confronts him and repeatedly calls him out.
At this point, his little brother at 154 is more deserving of a Canelo payday, at least Mell doesn't duck no one and don't shy away from any confrontation. Hurd stopped Trout for the first time in his career and beat Lara and dropped him, what did Mell do, he went straight into the ring and said, let's go.
Doubt this punk Mall would ever have the guts to do that. He aint got no confidence whatsoever.
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Originally posted by Sledgeweather17 View PostSo you want him to continue to duck slick, black, undefeated fighters huh?
GGG, Jacobs, Derevy, and Canelo are all in a different class and are also super close to each other.
Everyone just wants Canelo because he offers the most money for nearly the same risk.Last edited by ReggieKray; 11-04-2019, 12:49 PM.
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Originally posted by Shadoww702 View PostWhy don’t Charlo and Andrade fight??? Didn’t Jacobs punk Charlo???
I wish ppl like you weren’t such hypocrites!!!
You admit Charlo and Andrade been same division forever and keep moving up but won’t fight each other??? Why don’t you call that ducking????
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Originally posted by ReggieKray View PostDude he already fought the best black fighter.. Danny Jacob's. Jacobs would destroy Charlo and Andrade.
GGG, Jacobs, Derevy, and Canelo are all in a different class and are also super close to each other.
Everyone just wants Canelo because he offers the most money for nearly the same risk.
Lol, Jacobs ain't in no league of his own. Also, Andrade and Jacobs have a common oppponent at 160 and Andrade did WAY better than Jacobs.
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