Canelo huge favorite compared to Pac who was the underdog

[.!WAR MIKEY!.]

Well one is seen as a Prime the best fighter in the sport right now the other was seen as a washed up past prime fighter facing his first real live dog in awhile. So makes sense.

[FredRekk]

Well one is seen as a Prime the best fighter in the sport right now the other was seen as a washed up past prime fighter facing his first real live dog in awhile. So makes sense.

Incorrect.

Oscar was a heavy favorite to beat Pacquiao.
PAC retired him.

[Larry the boss]

Does not affect your boxing ability, just likely to increase the swelling in that area again when it is being targeted.

He looked horrible against Forbes man, damn good win by Manny as Oscar thought he had a good cherry pick and got embarrassed but no need to exaggerate the level Oscar was at...Manny doesn't need the excuses as that isnt even one of his best wins..JUST A NICE PAY DAY

[RetroSpeed05]

He looked horrible against Forbes man, damn good win by Manny as Oscar thought he had a good cherry pick and got embarrassed but no need to exaggerate the level Oscar was at...Manny doesn't need the excuses as that isnt even one of his best wins..JUST A NICE PAY DAY

This was essentially a 130lber coming to 147(he only fought once at 135). No matter how you slice its a good win. Especially how he beat him. Name any one at 130-140 who could not only make ODL look bad but just beat the living crap outta him like Pac did. That's the difference.

[D4thincarnation]

He looked horrible against Forbes man, damn good win by Manny as Oscar thought he had a good cherry pick and got embarrassed but no need to exaggerate the level Oscar was at...Manny doesn't need the excuses as that isnt even one of his best wins..JUST A NICE PAY DAY

Oscar won every round, he was criticized because he never stopped Forbes, even though Forbes was never stopped before.


Oscar had wanted to fight Cotto in his last fight, but Margarito won, and Oscar didn't want to fight a Mexican star, which Margarito was, as he wanted the love from the Mexican fans and lost Mexican fans with the JCC fight.

Pacquiao was the biggest name, it was a fight he thought he would win. Oscar was coming back down to 147lbs, no matter what in his final fight.


Nothing is being exaggerated, look at what people said before the fight, it was a mismatch in Oscar's favor.


Yes, this was not a prime Oscar, but neither was the shut out Forbes or the one that Floyd just got a win over.

[D4thincarnation]

This was essentially a 130lber coming to 147(he only fought once at 135). No matter how you slice its a good win. Especially how he beat him. Name any one at 130-140 who could not only make ODL look bad but just beat the living crap outta him like Pac did. That's the difference.

I think Pacquiao was 3/1 underdog.


People made excuses for Oscar because they couldn't believe what Pacquiao had done.

But Pacquiao's level was confirmed with Hatton and then Cotto.

[D4thincarnation]

Well one is seen as a Prime the best fighter in the sport right now the other was seen as a washed up past prime fighter facing his first real live dog in awhile. So makes sense.

So a 36 year old Kovalev is prime but a 34 year old Oscar isn't.

You do know Oscar fought Mayweather a year earlier right?

[.!WAR MIKEY!.]

So a 36 year old Kovalev is prime but a 34 year old Oscar isn't.

You do know Oscar fought Mayweather a year earlier right?

I thought we were talking about canelo vs kovalev vs pac vs thurman. I bow out

[pasawayako]

145/145/145 Oscar... would have lost to EVERY top welter, and most top JWW's

something that anyone could achieve... is NOT amazing lol

But no one had ever done beating delahoya like that except pac. Floyd could only win a controversial split decision.

[pasawayako]

No one in the history of boxing manage to go up 3 weight division and beat his opponent in every minute of every second of the fight...