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  • D4thincarnation
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    #51
    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
    Haney preferred to fight Lomachenko for the belt.

    So he chose to climb the WBC rankings and followed their rules until he became Lomachenko's mandatory. But now he is blocked from that fight thanks to the Franchise Champion designation.

    So the WBC belt that is around his waist is legitimate as far as I'm concerned.

    Strange, why did he decided to fight Petrov as soon as he became mandatory?

    Why was he celebrating him getting the belt this way?

    Paper champion.

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    • brick wall
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      #52
      it seems like haney's biggest accomplishment so far is him calling out loma with the way some clowns are acting in here...they actually believe he's getting ducked

      loma already have a fight lined up for him so it doesn't matter who calls him out...and nobody earns bragging points by calling him out right now.

      haney has a fight coming up too...an undercard to some youtube clowns fight
      and he's fighting some 45th ranked fighter ffs. he should fight campbell instead...now that's a proper fight for him.

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      • Real King Kong
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        #53
        Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
        Arum asked for Lomachenko to be named Franchise Champion. Lomachenko doesn't have to fight Devin Haney now and I'd wager that he never will.
        Do we know arum literally asked the wbc? Did gbp also ask for canelo to be “franchise champion”?

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        • factsarenice
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          #54
          This is all about marketing and money, nothing more and no less.

          March 12, 2019 …Lomachenko said that his goal is to unify at 135 and return to 130.

          September 13th 2019,... After stopping Abdullaev Haney announces that he would like to fight Lomachanko.

          Keep in mind, that's 5 months after knowing that Lomachanko would in fact be going back to his natural weight class.

          In the end:

          Calling out Loma was a smart move and likely under the direction of Eddie Hearn. In doing so, Devin elevated himself in just 2 months from unknown to star.

          When Lomachenko leaves Devin will be considered the champion, a terrific accomplishment in 2 months without ever fighting a single belt holder.

          As for the WBC, they did what they do, manufactured another belt for 1/4 million in sanctioning fees.

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            #55
            Originally posted by Real King Kong
            Do we know arum literally asked the wbc? Did gbp also ask for canelo to be “franchise champion”?
            I posted a link to a BoxingScene article that stated Top Rank requested the designation.

            Was it Arum personally who requested it? I guess I can't say for certain. But it's logical to assume he would have to know and sign off on something like that...it's his promotional company after all.

            I don't like how the Franchise Champion designation is going to be used by Canelo to completely ignore Jermall Charlo either. I'm consistent in my stance. This Franchise Belt is just a gimmick to block high risk fighters from being made mandos.

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              #56
              Originally posted by D4thincarnation
              Strange, why did he decided to fight Petrov as soon as he became mandatory?

              Why was he celebrating him getting the belt this way?

              Paper champion.
              Lomachenko's team would rather drop the belt than have Haney looming as the mandatory.

              It is what it is.

              For Haney life goes on and he has to keep moving forward. So if Petrov is next that's fine or if Campbell is next that's even better.

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              • ecuasionz
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                #57
                Originally posted by factsarenice
                WRONG! Lomachenko was elevated to a superior belt above Devin Haney by the WBC as acknowledgement for his accomplishments, accomplishments Devin simply does not have.
                What accomplishment? Zero defenses of newly awarded belt. Just winning a belt is a top accomplishment now? Or is the WBC now admiring accomplishments from other organizations now?
                Last edited by ecuasionz; 10-26-2019, 03:55 PM.

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                • Real King Kong
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                  I posted a link to a BoxingScene article that stated Top Rank requested the designation.

                  Was it Arum personally who requested it? I guess I can't say for certain. But it's logical to assume he would have to know and sign off on something like that...it's his promotional company after all.

                  I don't like how the Franchise Champion designation is going to be used by Canelo to completely ignore Jermall Charlo either. I'm consistent in my stance. This Franchise Belt is just a gimmick to block high risk fighters from being made mandos.
                  It diminishes their regular championship, that’s for sure.

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                  • davefromvancouv
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by factsarenice
                    Loma is fighting for unification, no need for a "Franchise" belt. It's a useless designation because unification trumps mandatory, period. The facts are that Devin was never going to be next with or without the fake Franchise belt. Frankly, Devin wouldn't even be mandatory If they didn't gift Devin a fake "Interim" belt.

                    WTF is "Interim" other than just another guy that didn't beat anyone.

                    Every lightweight on the planet should be pissed that the belt they're fighting for became an arbitrary gift. Who exactly did Devin beat to receive any belt at all?
                    Fact is Haney was supposed to fight Campbell for the WBC belt. Arum pulled some strings to have Lomachenko supersede him, then had Lomachenko become franchise champion to avoid him. So Haney-Campbell is the real fight for the WBC belt. And it looks like Lomachenko knows that Haney will beat him. So at this stage, he may even avoid the Teofimo Lopez-Commey IBF winner, and go back down to his natural weight at 130. This way, he avoids Gervonta Davis too, his WBA mandatory. Too many threats at 135...

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                    • D4thincarnation
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                      Lomachenko's team would rather drop the belt than have Haney looming as the mandatory.

                      It is what it is.

                      For Haney life goes on and he has to keep moving forward. So if Petrov is next that's fine or if Campbell is next that's even better.

                      Lomachenko would prefer to unify the division rather that wait on Haney to fight some guy he signed to fight when he was the mandatory then fight a Haney, who has not done nothing of note in the division despite being there twice as long as Lomachenko and have 4 times as many fights in the division.


                      Lomachenko want to fight the best.
                      Haney is not the best.

                      Nothing but a paper champ.

                      Hope he fights someone with a pulse soon.

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