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  • Curt Henning
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    #91
    Originally posted by DaNeutral.
    Parker. Parker has been a world champion. Whyte beat an ex world champ who is still in his prime years. Play Parker down all you want but what world champs or ex world champs still in their prime has Ortiz beat?

    Shane, which Luis Ortiz win was the one that made you go "WOW, Ortiz i legit what a great name to go on Ortiz resume"?
    charles martin was a "world champion"...stop being such an insecure fgt man...just please...for once try.....joe parker being a "world champion" means squat....god...just for a second stop being a fgt

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      #92
      ATTN all insecure british fgts

      you made ortiz the boogeyman when you thought wilder was ducking and wouldnt fight him

      THEN you did a 180 when he beat him down.....i know you all have convenient amnesia but Im here to remind you

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      • Articulateboxin
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        #93
        Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
        Because Wilder was the first top heavyweight willing to fight him.
        I mean ortiz walked away from multiple career high pay days while he was at matchroom. Whyte stated numerous times he was willing and tried to fight him way back then. Fast forward to where we are now and Whyte has a pretty stellar record by current standards. Ortiz still only has 1, maybe 2 meaningful fights on his record and even turned down a 14times career high pay day against AJ that his team are on record to admitting to. Definitely no boogey man

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        • DaNeutral.
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          #94
          Originally posted by Curt Henning
          charles martin was a "world champion"...stop being such an insecure fgt man...just please...for once try.....joe parker being a "world champion" means squat....god...just for a second stop being a fgt
          LOL you Americans, literally refuse to give anybody any credit ever unless they are American. Parker was a world champ but it doesnt count to you but Wilder it means EVERYTHING. Keep your standards doubled up yanks.

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          • ShaneMosleySr
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            #95
            Luis Ortiz accepted Dillian Whyte's challenge and Whyte went on to fight Lucas Browne or some nobody like that.

            Ortiz turned down Joshua's offer because Wilder offered him more money.

            Originally posted by Articulateboxin
            I mean ortiz walked away from multiple career high pay days while he was at matchroom. Whyte stated numerous times he was willing and tried to fight him way back then. Fast forward to where we are now and Whyte has a pretty stellar record by current standards. Ortiz still only has 1, maybe 2 meaningful fights on his record and even turned down a 14times career high pay day against AJ that his team are on record to admitting to. Definitely no boogey man

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            • DaNeutral.
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              #96
              Originally posted by Curt Henning
              ATTN all insecure british fgts

              you made ortiz the boogeyman when you thought wilder was ducking and wouldnt fight him

              THEN you did a 180 when he beat him down.....i know you all have convenient amnesia but Im here to remind you
              We didnt make him the Boogey man, nobody did, he wasnt an d isnt and never was. There is no Boogeymen in that division but if there was it is Joshua. Fury, Wilder, Ortiz, Whyte and Pulev have all turned down career high paydays and the chance to try take all Joshua's belts and they all said NO and went in another direction fighting for ALOT LESS MONEY and ZERO BELTS. Thats what a Boogeyman looks like.

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              • Curt Henning
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                #97
                lol@this dumb fgt...jesus

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                • DaNeutral.
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                  #98
                  Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
                  Rivas would have turned down Joshua too if Wilder had offered him more money than Joshua did.

                  Which is exactly why Ortiz turned down Joshua.
                  And you are STILL LYING. Ortiz did NOT turn that offer down because Wilder offered him more. Why has more than 1 person highlighted this FACT to you yet you still running with a lie?

                  You are getting worse than Motor City Liar and Lie Hemmings.

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by DaNeutral.
                    We didnt make him the Boogey man, nobody did, he wasnt an d isnt and never was. There is no Boogeymen in that division but if there was it is Joshua. Fury, Wilder, Ortiz, Whyte and Pulev have all turned down career high paydays and the chance to try take all Joshua's belts and they all said NO and went in another direction fighting for ALOT LESS MONEY and ZERO BELTS. Thats what a Boogeyman looks like.
                    Yep. Now when Ruiz beat Joshua, Wilder fans pretend like Wilder beat Joshua.

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                    • Articulateboxin
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                      #100
                      Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
                      Luis Ortiz accepted Dillian Whyte's challenge and Whyte went on to fight Lucas Browne or some nobody like that.

                      Ortiz turned down Joshua's offer because Wilder offered him more money.
                      Well I think we can agree to disagree. From the reports i've read and interviews i've seen, Ortiz turned down paydowns on multiple occasions to fight Whyte, even as recently as march 19, but ortiz declined again. Given their history, Whyte is clearly the type to fight all commers, Ortiz has 2 fights (Jennings and wilder) and he's 40 years old. That seems quite compelling evidence by itself.



                      If you could link me to the source of Ortiz reportedly making $7.1+ million dollars for the wilder fight, i'd love to read it.

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