For those who question who Ortiz has beaten...

[DaNeutral.]

Why not make the offer again? Or up the offer?

Why was it an one time only offer?

Hearn and AJ made repeated offers to Wilder, upping the amounts each time.

Wilder is a total fraud pretender. He only pretends to want AJ, one belt one man BS. You fell for the fraud dummy.

Wilder and his team are fooling nobody but their sheep like cult followers. Wilder will call out AJ when he knows both fighters got other fights infront of them. But when both are free to negotiate Wilder and his team come up with excuses to not even discuss a fight.
That last time he used the Fury rematch, Joshua said "Why do that when you can fight me". Fury said "Its ok i will step aside so you can face AJ next". Wilder said NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

Fooling nobody. If both fighters wanted that fight the fight would of happened by now. Only one side has made offer after offer after offer. One side made one offer with a 24 hour deadline and no terms or a contract.But we all also know they only put out that weak unsignable offer so they could point at it as some sort of proof that they trying to make this fight when the world started calling them duckers.

[Laligalaliga]

Wilder made $10 million to fight Brezeale, so I’m guessing his purse will be something like that.

And let's assume wilder will make 10/15mil for Ortiz rematch and how the fcck did believe Ortiz is going home with 7mil?
Note that you heard it here first, Ortiz is not making half the proposed 7mil.
His pay day is gone for ever.

[Laligalaliga]

that offer was never accepted by hearn. how do you know it was a bluff? bluffs get called and that's how you know it was a bluff!!!! do you even play cards?!

why would you meet with the guy when he wasn't going to fight on the terms you offered? i'll say this one more time, eddie had no interest in even fighting in the states at that time. he told you so. his dad told you so. and when his fighter went to the US he gassed and got his butt kicked. then hearn's second biggest domestic HW pops for drugs and has it brushed under the carpet literally until after the fight. an american journalist breaks the story. makes you wonder, considering that eddie has the BBBoc and the UKAD in his pocket.


you know what hearn was going to offer? 15 million in the UK with no upsdie / split. teh same thing he offered last time. I wouldn't take time out of my week to meet with him either. i would say "uhhh, eddie, have you considered my email... you know... where i offered you 50 million bucks + an upside and a date and venue for the fight? is that what you want to talk about?"



i'll turn it aroud on you
were hearn and joshua going to take the fight in that meeting? 50 million bucks and in the US? otherwise, why is it a big deal that haymon and team didn't show? eddie wants it to look like that's why the fight didn't come off. but read between the lines. only way you blame haymon for the fight not happening in that case is if the money was real.

in reality, the fight didnt' come off because he offered deontay wilder what joe parker received, and when they received a guarantee for a career high purse, a split, and an upside, they turned the fight down. that is what actually happened. there is no other way.

again, how is not going to this meeting to blame for the fight not happening? the only way that statement makes sense is if the offer was real and hearn was going to accept it.


you guys are incredibly out of your league when you talk about stuff like this. for starters, you don't have the backbone and muscle memory of having tyson, holyfield, bowe, as household names. your parents didn't have ali, frazier, liston, marciano, as names in theirs. next, you have no idea at all how business is conducted, what contract law and negotiations look like, what facts are and how to read between the lines and interpret them.

treat me like your older, wiser relative. i'm not asking you to believe me, i'm telling you how it is. kiss the rings while you're at it, it's a monday and i'm busy.

Maybe we should start making offers on twitter.
Yeah, thats where real offers are made.
Lmao.

[ShaneMosleySr]

Who should I trust, Mike Coppinger or Laligalaliga?

Tough choice there.

And let's assume wilder will make 10/15mil for Ortiz rematch and how the fcck did believe Ortiz is going home with 7mil?
Note that you heard it here first, Ortiz is not making half the proposed 7mil.
His pay day is gone for ever.

[Monzon99]

Coppinger is a haymon shill. Believe the other guy.

[Monzon99]

Wilder and his team are fooling nobody but their sheep like cult followers. Wilder will call out AJ when he knows both fighters got other fights infront of them. But when both are free to negotiate Wilder and his team come up with excuses to not even discuss a fight.
That last time he used the Fury rematch, Joshua said "Why do that when you can fight me". Fury said "Its ok i will step aside so you can face AJ next". Wilder said NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

Fooling nobody. If both fighters wanted that fight the fight would of happened by now. Only one side has made offer after offer after offer. One side made one offer with a 24 hour deadline and no terms or a contract.But we all also know they only put out that weak unsignable offer so they could point at it as some sort of proof that they trying to make this fight when the world started calling them duckers.

Yes. Well said. Haymon and Wilder are fraud pretenders. Finkle too.

[Laligalaliga]

Who should I trust, Mike Coppinger or Laligalaliga?

Tough choice there.

Any one can be influenced though.....

[REDEEMER]

that offer was never accepted by hearn. how do you know it was a bluff? bluffs get called and that's how you know it was a bluff!!!! do you even play cards?!

why would you meet with the guy when he wasn't going to fight on the terms you offered? i'll say this one more time, eddie had no interest in even fighting in the states at that time. he told you so. his dad told you so. and when his fighter went to the US he gassed and got his butt kicked. then hearn's second biggest domestic HW pops for drugs and has it brushed under the carpet literally until after the fight. an american journalist breaks the story. makes you wonder, considering that eddie has the BBBoc and the UKAD in his pocket.


you know what hearn was going to offer? 15 million in the UK with no upsdie / split. teh same thing he offered last time. I wouldn't take time out of my week to meet with him either. i would say "uhhh, eddie, have you considered my email... you know... where i offered you 50 million bucks + an upside and a date and venue for the fight? is that what you want to talk about?"



i'll turn it aroud on you
were hearn and joshua going to take the fight in that meeting? 50 million bucks and in the US? otherwise, why is it a big deal that haymon and team didn't show? eddie wants it to look like that's why the fight didn't come off. but read between the lines. only way you blame haymon for the fight not happening in that case is if the money was real.

in reality, the fight didnt' come off because he offered deontay wilder what joe parker received, and when they received a guarantee for a career high purse, a split, and an upside, they turned the fight down. that is what actually happened. there is no other way.

again, how is not going to this meeting to blame for the fight not happening? the only way that statement makes sense is if the offer was real and hearn was going to accept it.


you guys are incredibly out of your league when you talk about stuff like this. for starters, you don't have the backbone and muscle memory of having tyson, holyfield, bowe, as household names. your parents didn't have ali, frazier, liston, marciano, as names in theirs. next, you have no idea at all how business is conducted, what contract law and negotiations look like, what facts are and how to read between the lines and interpret them.

treat me like your older, wiser relative. i'm not asking you to believe me, i'm telling you how it is. kiss the rings while you're at it, it's a monday and i'm busy.

The way to call a bluff as you claim it wasn't is to try to make a meeting to discuss the real details of a proposal which Finkel made and had Wilder make false statements on social media as though he was offering it ? Ha

This was met by cancel meetings with 24 hour deadlines and not give where the money is coming from a source which was already confirmed from BT sports ,we don't need to go over this again ,its U.S posters like you why most consider us dumb. Come'on nothing you post about business adds up ,no pun intended. Ha

[just the facts]

The way to call a bluff as you claim it wasn't is to try to make a meeting to discuss the real details of a proposal which Finkel made and had Wilder make false statements on social media as though he was offering it ? Ha

This was met by cancel meetings with 24 hour deadlines and not give where the money is coming from a source which was already confirmed from BT sports ,we don't need to go over this again ,its U.S posters like you why most consider us dumb. Come'on nothing you post about business adds up ,no pun intended. Ha

What's with your strange negative obsession with Wilder? Anti American agenda? Racism? What?

[ShaneMosleySr]

Based on what?

Coppinger is a haymon shill. Believe the other guy.