For those who question who Ortiz has beaten...

[mathed]

He beat a pacemaker and stint so that's worth mentioning.....

[Laligalaliga]

That’s not even true because he’s making more to fight Wilder than Joshua offered.

Is wilder making 7mil in this fight? Let's ask ourselves first before talking about Ortiz.
Ortiz will earn 7+mil only if wilder is getting about 30/40mil which is not likely because if show time do, they are closer to HBO than they think.

[ShaneMosleySr]

All I know is Mike Coppinger reported that Luis Ortiz will make one excess of $7 million for the Wilder rematch.

Is wilder making 7mil in this fight? Let's ask ourselves first before talking about Ortiz.
Ortiz will earn 7+mil only if wilder is getting about 30/40mil which is not likely because if show time do, they are closer to HBO than they think.

[Laligalaliga]

All I know is Mike Coppinger reported that Luis Ortiz will make one excess of $7 million for the Wilder rematch.

Lol......he should have reported what wilder will make as well.
Cut me all that scrap. Why sure are you that wilder will make 10/15mil?

[GoogleMe]

on what f#cking planet is a close win over wladimir klitschko at the very end of his career "one of the best wins ever in HW history?"


planet union jack, that is were! holy **** you guys are deluded. i love fury now and think he's the planet's best HW but man are you guys f#cking deluded if you think his win over wladimir was historic. PED use, wladimir literally retiring after the fight, the negativity and how little he did to distance himself or put a hurting on a 40 year old who couldn't pull the trigger, you guys just forget all of this stuff because he's british! and that's why we don't take you seriously. you don't act like you've been there, because you can't! you haven't!

Thanks for your reply.

You read what you want to read - I said better not "best". There is a significant difference. I do not disagree, that Klitschko were not in prime condition. But he was the lineal champion at the time, and he did outbox him, and I did not see it as particularly close.

I have got to correct you - my location (Denmark) is not the capital of Great Britain or part of it for that matter.

[ShaneMosleySr]

Wilder made $10 million to fight Brezeale, so I’m guessing his purse will be something like that.

Lol......he should have reported what wilder will make as well.
Cut me all that scrap. Why sure are you that wilder will make 10/15mil?

[DaNeutral.]

Lol when the wilder fans claim wilder beating ortiz is more of an accomplishment than Joshua beating wlad and picking up a world title you know there is no end to their bias.

Joshua won a world title. Ortiz didn't even pass his pre fight medical.

[New England]

The $50m was a fraud bluff fake offer. If Haymon and FInkel really meant it they would have met with Hearn to discuss the details face to face in NYC.

And they would have offered it again. They never offered it again. Why not? It was a fraud PR bluff.

that offer was never accepted by hearn. how do you know it was a bluff? bluffs get called and that's how you know it was a bluff!!!! do you even play cards?!

why would you meet with the guy when he wasn't going to fight on the terms you offered? i'll say this one more time, eddie had no interest in even fighting in the states at that time. he told you so. his dad told you so. and when his fighter went to the US he gassed and got his butt kicked. then hearn's second biggest domestic HW pops for drugs and has it brushed under the carpet literally until after the fight. an american journalist breaks the story. makes you wonder, considering that eddie has the BBBoc and the UKAD in his pocket.


you know what hearn was going to offer? 15 million in the UK with no upsdie / split. teh same thing he offered last time. I wouldn't take time out of my week to meet with him either. i would say "uhhh, eddie, have you considered my email... you know... where i offered you 50 million bucks + an upside and a date and venue for the fight? is that what you want to talk about?"



i'll turn it aroud on you
were hearn and joshua going to take the fight in that meeting? 50 million bucks and in the US? otherwise, why is it a big deal that haymon and team didn't show? eddie wants it to look like that's why the fight didn't come off. but read between the lines. only way you blame haymon for the fight not happening in that case is if the money was real.

in reality, the fight didnt' come off because he offered deontay wilder what joe parker received, and when they received a guarantee for a career high purse, a split, and an upside, they turned the fight down. that is what actually happened. there is no other way.

again, how is not going to this meeting to blame for the fight not happening? the only way that statement makes sense is if the offer was real and hearn was going to accept it.


you guys are incredibly out of your league when you talk about stuff like this. for starters, you don't have the backbone and muscle memory of having tyson, holyfield, bowe, as household names. your parents didn't have ali, frazier, liston, marciano, as names in theirs. next, you have no idea at all how business is conducted, what contract law and negotiations look like, what facts are and how to read between the lines and interpret them.

treat me like your older, wiser relative. i'm not asking you to believe me, i'm telling you how it is. kiss the rings while you're at it, it's a monday and i'm busy.

[Monzon99]

Why not make the offer again? Or up the offer?

Why was it an one time only offer?

Hearn and AJ made repeated offers to Wilder, upping the amounts each time.

Wilder is a total fraud pretender. He only pretends to want AJ, one belt one man BS. You fell for the fraud dummy.

[Monzon99]

Fury vs Wilder 2 is not going to sell well. Neither gained much profile growth since the first fake fight. Fury is going to WWE and MMA because he is a minor league draw in boxing.

Wilder is such a fake and lousy personality, WWE doesn't even want him.