Does anyone else think Canelo is going to take an absolute beating against Kovalev?

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  • HitmanTommy
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    #61
    Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
    Canelo Alvarez is going to be stopped via TKO 'Alvarez has over shot the mark, and his team have underestimated Kovalev at this stage in his career'.

    Totally unnecessary fight for Alvarez.
    Yep.............

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    • Caught Square
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      #62
      Originally posted by j0zef
      Canelo's a 4-1 favorite for a reason.
      Betting odds aren't always a accurate reflection of the competitiveness of a fight.

      Floyd was only a 2 or 3 to 1 favourite over Mcgregor so does that mean there was more chance of Mcgregor beating Floyd than Kovalev beating Canelo?

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        #63
        Originally posted by Caught Square
        Betting odds aren't always a accurate reflection of the competitiveness of a fight.

        Floyd was only a 2 or 3 to 1 favourite over Mcgregor so does that mean there was more chance of Mcgregor beating Floyd than Kovalev beating Canelo?
        According to the bookmakers......Yes.

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          #64
          Originally posted by TonyGe
          According to the bookmakers......Yes.
          Why even bother replying with that?

          My whole point is that they aren’t always accurate lol.

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          • FredRekk
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            #65
            Canelo will be too smooth and crisp for this version of Kovalev.
            Canelo will outbox him.
            Faster hands, better reflexes, Canelo will win a UD.

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            • Tails
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              #66
              I think it very possible. But Canelo is quick with his upper body and as great handspeed. He will definitely need to play into those advantages if he wants to avoid taking damage because although he is past prime Kovalev is still a heavy handed well schooled offensive boxer.

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                #67
                Canelo will win this fight with no problem.

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                • j0zef
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Caught Square
                  Betting odds aren't always a accurate reflection of the competitiveness of a fight.

                  Floyd was only a 2 or 3 to 1 favourite over Mcgregor so does that mean there was more chance of Mcgregor beating Floyd than Kovalev beating Canelo?
                  Incorrect. Betting odds reflect the perceived competitiveness of the fight before it happens. The odds are driven by money. Oddsmakers do not care who your favorite fighter is, who NSB thinks is the GOAT, or anything else. They care about winning money. In theory, due to the free market structure of sports betting, odds should be near perfect. Sure, there are exceptions because people have their favorites, casuals make uneducated bets, etc - however in general theory, every bad bet is offset by an intelligent gambler that realizes the opportunity. The odds represent the equilibrium.

                  There are many times the odds are overcome. Lacy was a favorite against Joe. Hopkins was underdog vs. Tito. In your example, Floyd was "only" a 3-1 favorite against Conor. However, I'll easily argue those odds were fine. Conor was riding high (before he got embarassed by Khabib). Conor was naturally bigger than Floyd, was known for huge rehydrations. Floyd on the other hand, was 40 years old and was retired for 2 years.
                  Don't think it was unrealistic to give a Conor a 1/3 chance of beating Floyd.

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                  • IceTrayDaGang
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                    #69
                    no.. kov is too slow to hit anything.. canelo has good upper body movements.

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                    • Caught Square
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by j0zef
                      Incorrect. Betting odds reflect the perceived competitiveness of the fight before it happens. The odds are driven by money. Oddsmakers do not care who your favorite fighter is, who NSB thinks is the GOAT, or anything else. They care about winning money. In theory, due to the free market structure of sports betting, odds should be near perfect. Sure, there are exceptions because people have their favorites, casuals make uneducated bets, etc - however in general theory, every bad bet is offset by an intelligent gambler that realizes the opportunity. The odds represent the equilibrium.

                      There are many times the odds are overcome. Lacy was a favorite against Joe. Hopkins was underdog vs. Tito. In your example, Floyd was "only" a 3-1 favorite against Conor. However, I'll easily argue those odds were fine. Conor was riding high (before he got embarassed by Khabib). Conor was naturally bigger than Floyd, was known for huge rehydrations. Floyd on the other hand, was 40 years old and was retired for 2 years.
                      Don't think it was unrealistic to give a Conor a 1/3 chance of beating Floyd.
                      You forgot to mention that Conor isn’t actually a boxer lol who cares how high he was riding in a different sport. Despite Floyds age, Conor having 33% chance of winning wasn’t realistic and you know it. Seems like you’re just saying that to defend the point.

                      Using the betting odds as a sole reason for dismissing Kovalev winning is what I don’t really understand, what do you actually think of the matchup?
                      Last edited by Caught Square; 10-28-2019, 05:20 PM.

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