Comments Thread For: Team Haney: Seems Like The People Are Brainwashed By Bob Arum

[factsarenice]

Devin's best win was Abdullaev, he hasn't fought anyone even close to Luke Cambell, Jorge Linares or even Gary Russell. To say that Cambell is C level is ridiculous, he's better than anyone Haney has ever fought. Loma didn't pick Anthony Corlla, he was his mandatory. I won't even get into Lomachenko's 396 wins with 1 loss as a amateur.

Devin is a great fighter but his accomplishments are not remotely the same, they're not even in the same vicinity. The fact that you would make comments like that mean you are not serious or simply have a lot of catching up to do.

I'm sorry but the facts just don't support your opinion.

If his goal is to get a mandatory shot, then who cares about the disparity in accomplishment ?

Lomachenko’s last two fights were against Luke Campbell and Anthony Crolla for Christ’s sake! There’s not much difference between their resumes and Haneys.

I get Crolla was a world champ. But he beat Darleys Perez for the belt.

Luke Campbell was a gold medalist but hasn’t done jack as a pro.

Miss me with the disparity in accomplishment. Lomachenko fights plenty of C level guys.

[factsarenice]

For starters Lomachenko was upgraded today to WBC Franchise Champion, a distinction only shared by Canelo Alverez. Devin Haney was upgraded from interim to regular yet hasn't fought a single champion in his entire life time.

Devin Haney isn't stuck, he just doesn't want to fight the guys that are available. Devin can fight Tank Davis, Ryan Garcia, Linares, Chambell or Crolla.

Lomachenko got a title shot because it was the friggin' WBO, and Bob Arum called it in.

Let's not act like the shot came on any merit.

We'll see what Haney turns into, but he basically signed with Matchroom because Hearn showed up with the bag of money, was willing to run it as a joint venture with Haney's company, and Hearn sold Haney and his father on his believed quick path to a shot at the WBC 135lb belt (Mikey was a free agent and champion who was looking at opportunities back down from 147lbs, Campbell was the #1 WBC challenger, and there was a path to get Haney into the top 3 of the WBC rankings).

Tough titty to that plan, as the WBC has been more than open to try and push for divisional consolidation, and bad luck that Bob Arum got his hands on the belt and will stall things out/speed things up to achieve his own goals (Lomachenko sitting out until seeing if Teofimo wins in December, and assuming that no injuries occur, would put April as the earliest fight return for Lomachenko).

So, he's stuck for now.

Update: seems like the WBC saw the scheme to, so they gave Lomachenko the emeritus champion, in essence stripped him, and elevated Haney to full champion.

Who he's going to fight now (with no way to pressure Lomachenko, Mikey Garcia likely moving to 140lbs if he can't get Pacquiao, and Tank Davis building his own pot at 130lbs)?

[Sledgeweather17]

I don't see Haney beating Loma right now. But I do feel his chances get better after each Loma fight due to the mileage Loma has & the fact that he just flat out isn't as good at 135 and he's not gonna get any better, whereas Haney can and will get better

Truthfully, Haney has been protected. & I challenge anyone to prove otherwise. He looks spectacular because no one hes fought had a chance at beating him. We can't name 3 guys that we genuinely though Haney was gonna have a hard time with.

That's what makes it hard to gauge how good he's really is. We've seen Loma pushed in the ring by quality opponents and overcome. we haven't seen that with Haney. Look how lackluster Teofimo looked when he couldn't get his many outta there so quickly, he's been pretty quiet ever since

It's very easy to prove otherwise.

Haney was gonna fight Campbell for the wbc title, you know, the same Campbell who gave Loma problems, who is being credited to be a good name on Loma's resume.

He also has every intention of fighting Loma and so do his team.

How's that for protection?

Only reason he aint fight Campbell is coz Loma and sneaky Arum bribed the wbc to jump Loma ahead of the line when Haney was supposed to fight Campbell for that belt.

[Jsmooth9876]

This kid has fought nobody through 23 fights. Get in with Campbell next, he's on DAZN with you and with Hearn. Easy fight to make and you'll finally have someone on your record that we don't have to BOXREC to know who they are.

[tophat1]

Devin's best win was Abdullaev, he hasn't fought anyone even close to Luke Cambell, Jorge Linares or even Gary Russell. To say that Cambell is C level is ridiculous, he's better than anyone Haney has ever fought. Loma didn't pick Anthony Corlla, he was his mandatory. I won't even get into Lomachenko's 396 wins with 1 loss as a amateur.

Devin is a great fighter but his accomplishments are not remotely the same, they're not even in the same vicinity. The fact that you would make comments like that mean you are not serious or simply have a lot of catching up to do.

I'm sorry but the facts just don't support your opinion.

Spot on , nailed it

[JLC]

Devin's best win was Abdullaev, he hasn't fought anyone even close to Luke Cambell, Jorge Linares or even Gary Russell. To say that Cambell is C level is ridiculous, he's better than anyone Haney has ever fought. Loma didn't pick Anthony Corlla, he was his mandatory. I won't even get into Lomachenko's 396 wins with 1 loss as a amateur.

Devin is a great fighter but his accomplishments are not remotely the same, they're not even in the same vicinity. The fact that you would make comments like that mean you are not serious or simply have a lot of catching up to do.

I'm sorry but the facts just don't support your opinion.

You misunderstand.

My point is not that Haneys resume is anywhere in the same stratosphere as Lomachenkos.

My point is that Loma has fought other guys who are on the same level as Haney.

My point is that Haneys resume isn’t too far off from Crolla, and as you said, Crolla was his mandatory so we can’t complain about that fight.

Well, I LEAD with the same statement in the same post. Haney is trying to become his MANDATORY so who cares about his resume or accomplishments ? If it was a good enough route for Crolla to take without you b*tching about his resume, same should go for DH.

[Phill lynott]

Yea they made the tough choice and I respect it. That tells me they belive in themselves and want to prove it. With TR, they would work hard to get a title then sit back and watch how TR avoids any matchup that could derail the champ. TR promises easy street once you have a belt and no risk thereafter. All the while feeding the gullible public BS about how great you are without having to prove it.

[Bronx23]

It's very easy to prove otherwise.

Haney was gonna fight Campbell for the wbc title, you know, the same Campbell who gave Loma problems, who is being credited to be a good name on Loma's resume.

He also has every intention of fighting Loma and so do his team.

How's that for protection?

Only reason he aint fight Campbell is coz Loma and sneaky Arum bribed the wbc to jump Loma ahead of the line when Haney was supposed to fight Campbell for that belt.

Okay, so because he was supposed to fight 1 guy and it didn't happen, that completely erases the fact that he has faced 23 guys who were completely over matched. 22 if we're being generous. Interesting logic...

[Sledgeweather17]

Okay, so because he was supposed to fight 1 guy and it didn't happen, that completely erases the fact that he has faced 23 guys who were completely over matched. 22 if we're being generous. Interesting logic...

He's only twenty years old and turned pro at 16, lol, who do you think Canelo was fighting when he turned pro at that age?

Fact is, that is how young prospects are developed, when they are ready, they get the step up fights, Campbell was gonna be that step up fight, if he was being protected, they would never have tried to get that eliminator and they certainly wouldn't be calling out Lomachenko.

If you want to talk about protection than talk about Tank Davis, who won't even say Loma's name or any name that might be a threat to him.