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  • Laligalaliga
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    #61
    Originally posted by revelated
    He should come out to Human League's "Human", and fight Schwarz and Wallin.
    Uysk need to be managed properly... He's already a mandatory. All he need is to settle well in to the division, upgrade his level of competition to test himself for the big boys and go for his title shot. Its that simple.
    I didnt see all this energy from you when wilder was fighting bums all through, year after year. Give the uysk a break.

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      #62
      Originally posted by Dontbeahater
      This is exactly why you usyk superfans are eating crow today. Usyk ackward style high ring IQ was neutralized by weight and power advantage. That's normal logic.

      So when he fights a taller, bigger, more athletic fighter like wilder....

      Wilder has to fight Ortiz, fury, aj next. Usyk should fight Ortiz after wilder. Hell I would take the guy fury just fought recently. Guys with one punch ko power.
      Who the hell is Ortiz? Why should uysk fight a ducker?

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        #63
        Originally posted by REDEEMER
        Slow feet Ruiz whos smaller then Usyk with no reach isn't a threat to Usyk,you never really seen him fight otherwise you would know its a terrible match up style for Ruiz. Ha

        Even Witherspoon pointed that out in a post interview.
        If Witherspoon could land on him then I feel pretty confident that Andy Ruiz would as well.

        And Andy's punches carry bad intentions. Just ask Joshua.

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          #64
          Originally posted by Rusty Tromboni
          fell asleep because of pounding down Big Mac's ?


          Don't get me wrong, I am gonna feel bad about busting my load in your weave tomorrow. But today it's just too funny.

          1) you have never competed in any combat sports.
          2) no one who competes ever enters a fight in perfect shape - something is always wrong. Wrestlers, ya know, have school every day.
          3) working a day job is pretty much customary of any pro-fighter who hasn't "made it". It really is about getting proper attention while training, and time to recover. Working outside the gym isn't inherently harmful. Especially when it's not physically demanding.
          4) Witherspoon was fighting the fight of his life. usyk was fighting a feel-out fight.
          Originally posted by Enzo Mc is ****
          He'll do it down the line. Joshua will vacate the WBO, if he wins, so Usyk will win it, both will defend their respective titles a couple of times (the IBF will force Pulev's shot, for a start) then Eddie will do a MASSIVE UNIFICATION at Wembley, despite the fact that it was him that split the titles in the first place.
          You seems a to have quality knowledge about the boxing politics. Thats another angle to look at it when AJ reclaim those belts.
          Uysk is already positioned for the WBO belt, he doesn't need to take too much dangerous fights in the mean time while AJ drop the belt.
          It could be a scene that could play out well business wise.

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            #65
            Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
            If Witherspoon could land on him then I feel pretty confident that Andy Ruiz would as well.

            And Andy's punches carry bad intentions. Just ask Joshua.
            When was the last time you saw a 10 round fight where one of the fighter got hit less than Usyk did last night?

            Strange comment “if Witherspoon could land on him” Witherspoon is a veteran with a good pedigree, despite the fact he was in poor shape he still knows how to box and box well. Usyk kept Witherspoon off balance and at angles where he could not punch with leverage on his shots. That is effective boxing

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              #66
              Originally posted by 4truth
              When was the last time you saw a 10 round fight where one of the fighter got hit less than Usyk did last night?

              Strange comment “if Witherspoon could land on him” Witherspoon is a veteran with a good pedigree, despite the fact he was in poor shape he still knows how to box and box well. Usyk kept Witherspoon off balance and at angles where he could not punch with leverage on his shots. That is effective boxing
              Witherspoon is a 38 year old has-been (or maybe a never-was) who took the fight on short notice. Yet he still managed to mark up Usyk's face.

              Andy Ruiz would be a whole different kettle of fish is all I'm saying.

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                #67
                Now a guy is supposed to go 7 rounds and not get hit even once or he's an overrated bum.

                Some of you people need to just stay in your lane cause you DKSAB....

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Laligalaliga
                  Uysk need to be managed properly... He's already a mandatory. All he need is to settle well in to the division, upgrade his level of competition to test himself for the big boys and go for his title shot. Its that simple.
                  I didnt see all this energy from you when wilder was fighting bums all through, year after year. Give the uysk a break.
                  First of all, you need a sense of humor. Go back and read what you posted.

                  Originally posted by Laligalaliga
                  This is his first HW fight....winning is more important than what ever you are looking for. He needs 2/3 fights to settle in. He is also human, he can be nervous as well.
                  Don't be a hater.
                  So my reply should not have been a surprise to you.

                  Second, you said "settle in". You don't go after top guys if you're trying to "settle in". That's what got Mikey blown out. The best way for him to "settle in" are against high profile, low risk guys. Schwarz and Wallin count on both criteria fresh off fighting Fury at the top. Especially if Usyk KO's Wallin without getting bloodied or hurt - it raises his profile over Fury and frankly, exposes Fury a bit. BUT, if he struggles with either guy, it means he's not ready and needs more "settling in".

                  What's really happening, is that you think that "settling in" means going after top guys. It doesn't. It's fine to want him to go after top guys, but that's a surefire way to get retired early. Look at Winky Wright after his layoff wanting to come back and fight top guys - getting absolutely bruted along the way.

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                  • Laligalaliga
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by revelated
                    First of all, you need a sense of humor. Go back and read what you posted.



                    So my reply should not have been a surprise to you.

                    Second, you said "settle in". You don't go after top guys if you're trying to "settle in". That's what got Mikey blown out. The best way for him to "settle in" are against high profile, low risk guys. Schwarz and Wallin count on both criteria fresh off fighting Fury at the top. Especially if Usyk KO's Wallin without getting bloodied or hurt - it raises his profile over Fury and frankly, exposes Fury a bit. BUT, if he struggles with either guy, it means he's not ready and needs more "settling in".

                    What's really happening, is that you think that "settling in" means going after top guys. It doesn't. It's fine to want him to go after top guys, but that's a surefire way to get retired early. Look at Winky Wright after his layoff wanting to come back and fight top guys - getting absolutely bruted along the way.
                    All that don't matter any more. Hez had his first fight with a win. The next should be bigger challenge but not a too big jump. Who ever it is, I don't care.
                    Step up opponents as you go closer to the title shot.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Laligalaliga
                      All that don't matter any more. Hez had his first fight with a win. The next should be bigger challenge but not a too big jump. Who ever it is, I don't care.
                      Step up opponents as you go closer to the title shot.
                      Which is why I called out Schwarz and Wallin. Two guys previously undefeated that only ever lost to one of the top guys. But (should be) low risk IF Usyk is legit. THEN he can step up to someone like a Chisora or Whyte or Parker or Breezy or whatever.

                      In other words he hasn't impressed with his entry level competition. That's fine; fight another one at the C-level before you go to B-level and he damn sure shouldn't be talking about Wilder OR Fury at this point.

                      Usyk is a lot like Crawford. Accomplished in a previous class. 'eye test' in his current class. For now, accept that, raise your profile, keep racking up wins, get some CLEAR wins in the US, get your name out there. THEN go after the big dogs.

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